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Johnny Depp
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They teach most of this movement and mask stuff you guys are talking about at Stella Adler, LA.

http://www.hollywood-acting-cl...os-angeles/index.php

I think you could just take those courses without the acting technique classes if you wanted to but I'm not sure. I had some of that back home and it was very freeing, but I wouldn't say it made me "rangy." But different strokes if you are into it.
 
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Nicholas Cage
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If we are to be sticklers, I believe it says pretty clearly and in bold letters on the PW website that:
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Though our approach is primarily based on Mr. Meisner’s technique, Mr. Carnegie also worked with Stella Adler, Elia Kazan and Harold Clurman and has incorporated into the Playhouse West program the best of what all of these legendary teachers had to offer. http://playhousewest.net/about-the-school-2/

Not that I think that there is anything inherently wrong about that. Especially not since I found that I myself am more cross-pollinated than I would have thought before I read Esper's new book.
 
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Originally posted by jruda:
Fact..Mr. Meisner himself (while commuting from New York and Los Angeles) when he was in Los Angeles-He taught at Playhouse West for the last 10 years of his teaching career.

Unfortunately, PW is not what it was 20 plus years ago. Now they have way too many teachers underneath Bob Carnegie and Jeff Goldblum.

PW is good if you want a taste of Meisner training if you have to wait for September for an opening in a traditional 2 year program or after you're done with a traditional 2 year and want VERY affordable ongoing training.


Fact: Mr. Meisner wasn't commuting back and forth between LA and NY, he was sick and moved to LA to avoid the NY winters. Bob Carnegie and Sandy Meisner had maintained a correspondence between them for years prior to Sandy's arrival so when Sandy needed a place to conduct his classes in LA to begin, he held those classes at the Playhouse West studio on Lankershim. Then, Sandy took his classes to The Actor's Workout up the street and finally to the Sanford Meisner Center until his passing.

FACT: The name on the building cannot teach you to act. Sanford Meisner is not in the room to tell you what needs fixing or how to fix it. Sandy's dead. I was at the funeral, he's gone.

FACT: Everyone who teaches at Playhouse West has spent at least 4 years there, most have been there 10-20 years.

FACT: Playhouse West is the right training for people who will never quit. People who intend to be actors for the rest of their lives. NOT the folks who show up for 6 months to "give acting a shot." Two years of training is NOTHING in the life of an artist. Ask a dancer or a professional musician how many hours a week they train and practice.

FACT: Playhouse West has been successfully training newcomers for 33 years and probably has the highest percentage of working actors as alumni of any acting school anywhere.

Scott Caan, Ashley Judd, James Franco, Jim Parrack, Mike DeLorenzo, even Oleg Taktarov. Hundreds of working actors have Playhouse West on their resume's.

YES, 20 years ago the training was harder at Playhouse West. That's when I studied and taught there. I kept Oleg Taktarov in the Beginning level class for over two years. The results were that on his FIRST audition he was cast in a starring role with Robert DiNero. He's done TWO films with DiNero.

Today, the standard remains the same but you can't be that hard on the kinds of students who show up in Hollywood and feel entitled to their Oscars because they deigned to arrive.

Now, I'm not there now, but I know all the people of whom are spoken so glibly and callously and I will say this to the the bitter and disenfranchised; When they have accomplished something THEN they have the right to criticize.

Acting is the most competitive business in the world. If you are not over-prepared don't even think of competing for the top slots or even the lowliest.

If someone wanted to play in the NFL and took a couple of two day "intensives" or a workshop here and there, or had made the staggering commitment to 6 WEEKS of training, then showed up for a "Try Out", they'd be laughed out of the stadium.

Only in Hollywood do newbies expect a $20million dollar paycheck without working for it.

That's my opinion. The point of distinction between mine and yours may be that I'm speaking from personal experience and am armed with facts.

I hope that helps.
 
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Russell Crowe
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YES, 20 years ago the training was harder at Playhouse West. That's when I studied and taught there. I kept Oleg Taktarov in the Beginning level class for over two years. The results were that on his FIRST audition he was cast in a starring role with Robert DiNero. He's done TWO films with DiNero.

Today, the standard remains the same but you can't be that hard on the kinds of students who show up in Hollywood and feel entitled to their Oscars because they deigned to arrive.
FACT: The above is why PW is no longer anything but a typical LA actor mill. At least it is cheap so students get what they pay for.

I don't even like Meisner, but at least some of the other studios like Alderson and Mestnik have not bent to that and still keep to the old school ways. My experience? Seeing the badly trained fruit from that tree. Some of those actors could have been at least decent with a good kick in the ass that they did not get at PW.

Past glories don't count.
 
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I am just about to finish up the first year with Elizabeth Mestnick and I really love the place and was not sure about taking second year mainly because of money, but now I am having second thoughts. But I am also very interested in training with Alderson, any suggestions? Should I finish out the program or maybe see if I can switch over to Alderson?
 
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Russell Crowe
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Why would you want to go to a different teacher and start the two year program over if you like Elizabeth? She is one of the best teachers in LA. Paying for a third year that will be what you have already done with a different teacher doesn't make any sense.
 
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My post may have not been very clear. I meant transferring over and seeing if he would let me start the second year if he saw I was capable. It is not that I don't like her, I am just curious about his style of teaching. I may have to put second year on hold for a year no matter where I decide to go.
 
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Johnny Depp
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ActorDan just curious if you could give a little more feedback from your first year with Elizabeth? Does she push her students to be the best?
 
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Yes she does, she is not afraid to get after you if you have not done the work. She really is a great teacher, I have learned a lot in this past year.
 
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Johnny Depp
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Cool those teachers are the best. Thanks for the 411.
 
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Johnny Depp
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How many people are usually in a meisner class? Is 20+ normal?


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Johnny Depp
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Originally posted by femalehustler:
How many people are usually in a meisner class? Is 20+ normal?

Customarily, it's 12 guys and 12 girls. You're lucky if half of the class is still there at the end of 1st year.
 
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Johnny Depp
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With a meisner class when do you think it is best to start an audition class? Would it be distracting if you do it some time during the first year?


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Johnny Depp
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I would say i am a beginner at acting. I am in my head judging myself a lot and I think with this technique I can fix that.

The money won't be a problem in a few months. I am just wondering how fast you grow in meisner classes. Whether or not I will be ready to start an audition class. Or at the very least when to know I am ready to take one.


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Morgan Freeman
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I would personally start an audition class AT THE EARLIEST when you're 3-4 months in your Meisner program and done with the first round of scripted scenes.

Find an audition teacher whose views don't conflict with Meisner. I know Saxon Trainor, Annie Grindlay, and Tim Phillips all studied with Meisner, himself at one time.
 
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