Thanks guys....I have submitted both ways we will see what happens.
"Its the struggle that makes it great"
Did you email Colin or Joshua (the new agent)?
JW if you can pass on the email.
Anyone else have info on this management group's style of working, etc. Everyone seems to hear about how great they are. Anything specific? I'm in the process of comparing managers who've made offers and seeing which one would best suit me. Any more details on Stein Entertainment Group would be great.
I signed with them a few months ago towards the mid-late to late pilot season...but they've gotten me out a few times even though tv is a little slower for my type right now. They are also now pitching me to agents and I have a meeting with a top 10 coming up soon thanks to them.
I'm a big fan of theirs.
Did anyone get an email from them about the "Invited Call" for representation? It is supposed to happen this weekend.
Also, anybody have any new personal experience with this management team? Good? Bad?
submitted and got called to meet with them.
Can someone pm me the email to submit to? Thanks!
I posted this on a separate topic. It's a bit scathing, but someone has to stand up. If you the saw faces of all the actors walking out of the meeting after being treated like sh*t you would to.
I had the same experience. They seem to be expanding quite rapidly. Their newer, younger manager is doing a showcase every month it seems like and they respond to a lot of their email submissions. I'm not sure exactly how taking on 100-200 plus clients is going to be beneficial for a management company. They seem to have an unusual style of judging potential new clients. Some people began with a commercial copy read and then got called back for a tv scene read and then got called back again to read the same scene again.
From what I experienced and the others actors as well, they basically let you read 1 out of 3 scenes they send you and furthermore cut you off after about 60 seconds to drill questions about your resume and skills. It would have been nice to know that beforehand. They don't care.
I've met a few managers and it's definitely been the worst meeting ever. If it wasn't for their status and their one star client (Sara Paxton) I would have walked out. Rude douche bags. It's a shame that TJ Stein who seems to have a good reputation is letting this happen to his company, but who knows maybe the numbers, dart board approach to rep will work for them.
Perhaps I'm bitter because they didn't sign me, but I would have dropped them the minute I could move on to someone who actually respected me and had at least the same clout.
I had a friend with them, actually turned out I knew 3 people with them! We met and he was upset on their lack of follow through. He dropped them and got signed by a top 10 management company. He had credits and was very good. They let him slip because they have too many people. Dumb move. He'll be a tv star within 2 years.
One girl I know with very few credits who's with them gave good feedback and said they always answered her calls.
Another friend said it was too early to judge and that if they didn't get him pilot auditions he'd drop them.
I'm guessing 75% of their clients now are within 6 months of signing.
5 minute get to know you meeting? Come on. I had a longer interview with my print agent!
Most of their clients have so few credits they must be making money from their commercial commissions (which low level managers resort to) and from these showcases. If Sara Paxton ever left I'm sure they'd go under. She should, if you're a young star why would want to be with a cattle call management company? Go to Schiff lol.
Oh and the first meeting I went to there was a two hour wait and about 20 people waiting. I felt really special.
My advice. Sign with them if you have nothing better, they'll probably get you auditions. They'll take new actors, but realize you won't get personal attention, so be ok with that. Drop them later because they're awful people and have no respect for actors.
I have a friend who signed with them and he's content. He is a new sign though, so he's only been with them for like a week. He did get an audition already, though, which is a huge step up because he was on the same "level" as me a week ago (doing strictly N/U indi).
I can't speak to personal experience outside this, I just know that most people I talk to have good things to say about them.
“Absorb what is useful, Discard what is not, Add what is uniquely your own.” - Bruce Lee
How interesting, maybe it's because I have tougher skin, but I didn't feel like I was being treated like sht.
But yes, I do agree they are expanding rapidly, they just added another manager to their team, who I met two weeks ago.
I'm pretty satisfied with them, they've gotten me out on a co-star role and a supporting lead for a movie, they always answer my calls, and they are super cool when I come in the office.
I'm not sure if managers are really supposed to be the ones getting you auditions, that responsibility should really be placed on your agents.
But like you said, it might be your bitterness that might be getting mixed in with your review, which I totally understand, don't get me wrong.
Do they really have 200 clients?? Last time I checked they had about 30-40...but again this was 4 months ago...
Wow. As someone who's repped by them (as you can see by my post earlier in this thread when I signed) Stein Entertainment Group has been quite amazing for me.
In the past year I've been in just about every big office in town. No exaggeration. I've audition for the lead in a studio picture, they've gotten me auditions for probably 15 or 20 shows, a few bigger independents. And they've gotten me meetings with several top agencies.
I talk to them weekly as a client (perhaps because I book) and they never once talked down to me...not even at the audition. Also, the audition isn't an "open call". Not just anyone can show up. It's an invited call, very similar to any audition you've been on assuming you're auditioning.
They do seem to be expanding quite a bit, but they have several names on their client list (yes sara is one of the biggest...so is alexander gould). I would be careful taking the opinion of someone who wasn't offered representation as it seems their opinions may be coming from their own frustrations.
It sounds like an infomercial, probably because I'm happy there.
Met TJ last weekend at a workshop. He gave looooads of great feedback business and acting wise, and there were lots of child actors there and he was fantastic with them, so helpful and fun and friendly!(I think you can tell a lot about a persons character based on how they interact with super crazy energized actor kids) I could also tell he's the type that can play hardball when he needs to protect his clients. Awsome guy, awsome company.
I met with this same Talent Management company the other day and sorta went like this. They had me come into their office and immediately had me do a a cold read acting scene, then after it they said "okay, cool." Then they said, okay, go out into the lobby we're going to talk about you for a second and come get you. (They didn't sit down & talk with me at all). I then went out to the lobby was out there maybe a couple minutes. Then one of the managers came out and said that they weren't signing anyone today and that what they would be doing, was thinking about who they want to sign or not sign and that everyone would hear back from them either way in a week or two with their decisions. The manager then gave me their card and that was that. Now, they just e-mailed me back, thanking me for coming in and that I did a nice job but that they do not see a place for me on their list and wished me the best of luck.
Has anyone else had a meeting with a Talent Manager like this before?...
Seems like the whole experience was weird and short, not what I would expect from a meeting with a Talent Manager.
Has anyone else encountered anything like this before?....
My son, who is SAG, AFTRA and AEA, signed with Stein over a year ago. His decision to do so was based in part on the good things said about TJ on this board. I have no reason to doubt that he is, indeed a "good guy". Many folks here seem to have had good experiences with Stein Entertainment Group. My son's experience has been otherwise, and he has ended their relationship.
In the year he was with Stein, he was sent on a single audition for a play. The location turned out to be at the house of some old guy in Hollywood who had a little stage set up in his back yard. The guy introduced my son to the "director" of the play. The "director" was clearly drunk. Turns out that another of Stein's clients was sent to the same audition. When they left, both actors agreed it was the weirdest audition they had ever been on. I can't help but wonder what would have happened if the part had been for a young girl. Sure, there are a lot of sleaze-bags in Hollywood, and some of them are successful directors and producers, but wouldn't it be the job of a manager to know who they were?
My son and the other Stein client have stayed in contact during the last year. Both have been actively marketing themselves, doing independent and student films, local theater, CD workshops etc.. Both have commercial representation which they obtained on their own, without the help of Stein. They both have had similar experience with Stein Entertainment:
Their emails are almost never responded to.
Their phone calls are rarely returned.
They have not been introduced or referred to any agents.
They have not received any career advice.
The rare email notifications for auditions they get through Stein are for roles that they have self-submitted for.
I guess the question you've got to ask yourself is, "Do I want to put 15% of my future earnings for the next 2 years at risk in exchange for a relationship with this management company?" Judging by the posts by some on this board, it seems like a reasonable chance to take. Based on my son's experience, I couldn't personally recommend it. Maybe this company is suffering from growing pains.
Wow...again...what you're saying seems to be the exact opposite of what I've been dealing with. I get a response 90 percent of the time. I have gotten several agency meetings. I've gotten tons of tv auditions and a few very big feature auditions. I've booked a recurring role on a new show. and I'm constantly getting feedback from them on auditions.
SAM and brainthing both know and respect TJ. As for your child and the crappy audition you got...They are submitting to things in the breakdowns... That situation sucks but I can imagine if they're trying to get your child some credits and experience they probably submitted to a random on the breakdowns and got a bite. This could be as much of a problem with breakdown services not checking out a production as your manager.
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