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stein entertainment group
May 12, 2012, 08:22 PM
myCosettestein entertainment group
My daughter has been with Stein Entertainment Group for over a year and we have had a great experience with them so far. We live outside of LA. When she auditioned she had done modeling and local theater. She met Team Stein at an open call of over 300 kids. She was called back in the same week and then a third time to sign the contract. All the initial meetings were quick and to the point, similar to what other posters had experienced, but in the meetings with us they were always very upbeat, complimenatry and definitely not rude.
My daughter did not have an LA agent when we signed with Stein. TJ said he would get her into meetings with commercial and theatrical agents and three weeks later she had interviewed and signed with two top LA agents. I don't think she could have gotten in the door at these agencies without Stein's recommendation. She has had wonderful auditioning opportunities for Disney, Nickolodeon, pilots, episodics and film. Last year it was callbacks and no significant bookings. This year she has had some great bookings, too! She has never been sent to any questionable, inappropriate or non-paying project auditions by Stein Management.
As far as returning calls and emails: I don't think I have ever had to leave a message during business hours, someone in the office always answers the phone. Which is one of the benefits of having a "Team" and not just a single manager. Sometimes I email to update them on something my Daughter is doing and don't always get a reply. But if it is something important I always get a response. T.J. told me he tries to read all the emails that come in the office (they must get 1000's) and he has always replied to my emails when I emailed to him directly. T.J. has also called to check in with us as well.
When we go to a meeting at Stein Entertainment, they tried to have the whole team in the meeting. I thought that could be a reason to keep the meetings brief? What manager or agent can stay in business sitting around having long chats with the actors on their roster? If you are looking for lots of handholding and daily phone chats with a manager, this may not be the place for you. If you are a serious actor who wants to move their career forward, get excellent agent representation, and get infront of the best casting directors, I don't think you could do better than Stein.
May 13, 2012, 09:18 PM
EducatedI think the large number of posts about this company on this board says something important.
May 13, 2012, 09:47 PM
Jackson PollackI for 1 find it interesting that "myCosette" not only has one post ever but posts this 1 post on the same day he/she registers on backstage..... Guess this thread caught the attention of Stein Entertainment Group and they came here to try to clean up this pr mess about there company
May 13, 2012, 10:09 PM
actorshelperBez and amo37 have credibility on this board--I don't think there is a PR mess here.
This seems to be a management company that can get people started. Some people bring more to the table and thus probably get better results.
Since it seems they are growing and going for volume not all will be a match.
May 13, 2012, 10:55 PM
Jackson Pollackactorshelper-
Yes but I still believe myCosette is linked to Stein
May 13, 2012, 11:09 PM
amo37I'm just hoping for good results.
I am older than most posters on here (early 40s) so my results may be different than many of the younger clients. I have several principal and supporting cable tv credits, but my background is primarily theatre/musical theatre. So, with no major network credits it may take time for me to be sent out by Stein, so I do alot of self marketing and self submitting.
I found the Stein staff very personable and professional.
I'll keep everyone posted. I signed on with them after reading the positive comments on this board and other sources as well.
May 14, 2012, 08:39 AM
MegatronI've been with Stein for 3 months now and to date only 1 audition for a lead in a SAG indie; no agent meetings or referrals. I keep in contact with them via email updates, which are rarely returned. But if I email/call with a question, I DO get a response.
So far I can't say anything great about them, but like I said it's only been a few months. I'll definitely keep everybody posted on my experience with them as it goes.
May 14, 2012, 09:25 AM
LuckyMe73Ok folks. As we all know some reps work for some actors and don't work for others. This is for hundreds of different reasons.
The fact of the matter is, I know these guys and they a very solid management company. SAM had nothing but good stuff to say about them. Correct, they don't hold actors hands like the 1 poster above suggests but they do get their clients into rooms and they do have relationships with most offices in town.
At the end of the day if you're a beginning actor with 0 credits and you're complaining about any reps not doing anything for you, you should really check yourself. Agents and managers only do 10% of the work in my opinion and you have to do the other 90%. All agents can do is pitch you...if you're green and you don't have some crazy unique look/quality its going to be difficult to get into doors. I know someone with CAA that doesn't get out. But her bashing them really isn't going to do her any good, is it? The fact is that managers are more likely to take developmental clients on...which makes their jobs MUCH MUCH more difficult.
Be careful what you write because these threads tend to turn into a witch hunt. If you didn't have much luck with a rep then you didn't have luck with them. It doesn't mean that rep isn't good...it means they weren't good for you.
And although the typical first time poster is usually a sign of that company reading the board... and trying to clear their name, I wouldn't disagree with anything they've said. These guys are solid. End point.
PS: This user referred to them as Stein Management which I don't think someone working at that office would say as they are Stein Entertainment Group. Shorted to Stein Entertainment or Stein Ent.
May 14, 2012, 09:45 AM
LuckyMe73oh and Megatron. Are you positive you signed with them in February? At the very beginning of pilot season? If so...I'll say you signed at not the best time. At no fault of your own...its just a timing issue. Because reps are pretty busy during this time. The likely hood of a brand new client getting out during pilot season more than once or twice is very small. (unless they are already a name to cds and have booked pilots before or at the very least several large guest stars on big shows). Then you have the issue of getting out after pilot season when there is very little work. You'll have a better gauge of how a rep will be able to get you out come july-december than you will now.
Oh and you said you got one audition for a SAG indie. I'm sure, like most reps if you are a developmental client, they are going to send you out to some smaller auditions and get feedback so they can figure out if you're ready to get in front of the big boys.
May 14, 2012, 09:50 AM
Jackson Pollackquote:
Originally posted by LuckyMe73:
SAM had nothing but good stuff to say about them.
Actually SAM had nothing but good stuff to say about TJ the owner. He never said anything either way about the other managers at Stein.
May 14, 2012, 09:57 AM
LuckyMe73So Jackson...that means you should suspect his company but not him? What business have you had with this company, again? Because you seem to be doing your damnedest to question their validity.
May 14, 2012, 10:34 AM
Megatronquote:
Originally posted by LuckyMe73:
oh and Megatron. Are you positive you signed with them in February? At the very beginning of pilot season? If so...I'll say you signed at not the best time. At no fault of your own...its just a timing issue. Because reps are pretty busy during this time. The likely hood of a brand new client getting out during pilot season more than once or twice is very small. (unless they are already a name to cds and have booked pilots before or at the very least several large guest stars on big shows). Then you have the issue of getting out after pilot season when there is very little work. You'll have a better gauge of how a rep will be able to get you out come july-december than you will now.
Lucky, I agree with you 100% - that's why I was saying I'll keep everybody posted as to my progress with them.
Its absolutely a timing issue at this point. I actually signed in March I believe, during that difficult "in between" time. I'm gearing up for episodic season over Q3 and Q4; hopefully I'll have some good things to report by year's end.
So I really have nothing good or bad to say at this point; it's simply too early. But I can absolutely say that if I call/email with a question it gets answered. Update/FYI emails aren't responded to, but that's typical.
May 14, 2012, 10:42 AM
Denell JohnsonI've signed with them in March. I have had had nothing but a positive relationship with them so far. I have not been sent out for them as of yet, but I do keep them updated weekly with my happenings. I always get a prompt response in return. I have nothing but good things to say about them. I did a agent workshop a couple of weeks ago and emailed them. They were quick to follow up with the agent and report back. Solid Company!
May 14, 2012, 02:06 PM
AlexJquote:
At the end of the day if you're a beginning actor with 0 credits and you're complaining about any reps not doing anything for you, you should really check yourself. Agents and managers only do 10% of the work in my opinion and you have to do the other 90%. All agents can do is pitch you...if you're green and you don't have some crazy unique look/quality its going to be difficult to get into doors.
So, why is Stein Entertainment signing on these actors in the first place, knowing they will not be able to do anything for these actors? Are they not looking at their résumés? Are they not assessing them from their scene read at their meeting? If you, I mean
Stein, can't pitch 'em, and the actor has no unique quality, why sign them on in the first place?
May 14, 2012, 03:41 PM
LuckyMe73First...this is hypothetically ANY rep, so please don't ask your question negating this particular one. Because as I said before there are clients at CAA and WME that don't go out. Every agency/manager has clients they just aren't able to do anything for even though they try. Its the nature of the business. Someone else may have better luck with them and eventually that person will be dropped or will find another rep.
Now on to you question. No manager/agent signs a developmental client knowing they can't do anything for them. Why would a manager sign anyone who doesn't have a unique quality about them? They don't and thats my point. However, developmental clients have a ton of work to do to become working actors. It can be a long process and most of them don't become working actors.
Developmental clients usually are requested to make sure they get in classes where reps can call the coach and see how the student is progressing or if they are a strong actor. Most reps suggest doing workshops to get in front of casting and they will follow up with casting if they have close relationships to get feedback on you. They will get you a few "test" auditions for smaller things sometimes indy, sometimes costar, and sometimes even higher profile student films to get feedback from casting. If it looks like you're still hustling and doing well