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This letter is to all you parents of aspiring talent:

I am writing this note in response to the recent discussions on that have appear on backstage.com with regard to The Model Child Cover Model Search and my Aspiring Talent Camp at Universal Studios that Paula at BizParentz discussed here a few days ago. As a parent myself, I understand the desire of each of you to help and want to guide your child in this industry and want success for them. As the Executive Producer of ESB Productions, I have produced various productions for CosmoGIRL, Rampage, ELLEgirl, MasterCard and Universal Studios and last year alone saw over 30,000 aspiring talent, usually wanted to know or ask the same question:

What does it take to break into this industry? What should I pay for? and how much is too much and most importantly, does my child have what it takes? The way I look at this is that this is a personal journey that you can take with your child and based on KNOWLEDGE, COMMON SENSE and COMMITMENT, one can develop a successful career for/with their child.

What I cannot stand for with over 20 years in the business and having been a former model and actor with 8 agencies from NY to LA is the concept that you feel ENTITLEMENT. That you are owed something because you child is beautiful. As a Producer and Publisher of a 52 year-old publishing company, know one handed me a anything. It was my own desire that helped me build successful projects and productions with a lot of hard work, commitment and heart. I think forums are a great venue, but each of you need to judge the value to YOU and YOUR OWN CHILD. No two talent are alike and most of the time, a families personal situation determines their starting point on this journey, but when people attack the GOOD PEOPLE in the industry, then all you will be left with is the BAD PEOPLE. In EVERY industry you do have good and bad... doctors, lawyers, agents

As for our camp at Universal Studios, again there are costs associated with producing the project, bringing in the instructors, feeding them, you, your child, the photo shoot, screen test. Is it worth the costs? Well you need to decide for yourself and way out the benefits of what is included over the 3-day event. If you were going to fly and meet each of the agencies in NY, LA and Miami, how much would that cost you and would you be able to walk up and personally meet the owner or directors of agencies like Generations, CESD, Funnyface, Gilla Roos. Part of this industry is a "WHO YOU KNOW" situation and getting a chance to meet, learn from and network in a non-competitive environment some of the top names in the business is ONE way for parents and talent to get a better understand of what it is they are trying to accomplish.

Considering that my top discovery Amber Heard is currently filming her 23 movie project and she is only 22 with 6 movies coming out this year including Never Back Down, Pineapple Express and All the Boys Love Mandy Lane, I must have done something right in guiding her development. Additionally as for the money, we do offer scholarships if a person applies for one, which can be done online. If accepted and not everyone is, the scholarship usually range from $400 to $700 dollars, which are underwritten by myself, Catwalk Distribution and Model MasterCard.

Yes, I wish everything in life could be FREE including private schools, colleges, singing lessons, dance classes etc, BUT IT ISN'T!!!! And usually if it is FREE, it probably isn't worth it anyways. However, as parents you need to be educated, determine how much you are willing to spend and based on your own family circumstances determine what you are willing to do or not to help your child in this industry.

Please remember that Success is not given, it is earned!

Sincerely,

Gregory James
Executive Producer / Publisher
ESB Productions
Peter Glenn Publications
 
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determine what you are willing to do or not to help your child in this industry.


Mr. James:

You are plainly a very good salesperson. Perhaps you could explain some things to me that (after eight years in the business as the parent of a working kid), I never really understood about the scouting model you endorse and on which you base your business. Please specifically answer these questions.

1. Family A lives in Alabama and has no intention of moving to the NY or LA areas (where most of the print agencies and jobs are located). Why would this child benefit from attending your scouting camp and "networking" with NY or LA agents who really only want talent who are available on short notice to attend "go sees" and auditions?

2. Family B lives withing driving distance of NYC and are interested in print work only. Say they spend $4000 or $5000 to attend your scouting camp (airfare, tuition, hotel, food, car rental, extras). They meet an agent who wants to send them out. They spend $750 on a comp card. They then start spending $30 (gas, parking, babysitter etc.) to come into town for each go see, and they go on 15-20 go-sees for every job they book. Based on your many years of experience guiding talent in the business,
how long will it take this family to recoup all the money they spent?

3. Family C has some nice snapshots of their child (an unfussy head and shoulders shot) that they put in an envelope and send to Product, Generation, Ford, W, etc. with ordinary postage. Or, they attend one of the open calls these agencies regularly hold to see new talent. For a total cost of maybe $25. What do you offer them for the additional $4975?

4. Based on your scouting camp model, explain all additional products and services that parents are given an opportunity to purchase while they attend the camp. On average, how much does the typical family spend in those additional services (hotel, classes, coaches, photographs, etc.)?

5. Your post mentions that your camp includes a "screen test." Are you promising that each participant gets a genuine "screen test" (as that term is used in the industry) with an actual studio, or do you simulate a "screen test."

6. You also mention participants get a "photo shoot" included in the costs. Are you promising a full session (as that term is used in the business) that ends with a CD they own and can make comp cards/headshots from, or are there any additional costs involved?

7. You claim to have "guided" Amber Heard's development, yet she didn't do your scouting camp you are promoting here, did she? She entered the model search contest you run with other companies, right? That's an entirely different business model, isn't it? What, exactly, have you done to guide her career, and how do you work with her agent and manager to do this?

Thanks so much for taking the time to answer these questions.

Sincerely,

A parent who's child has earned much success without the help of a scouting organization and who is very skeptical of your claims
 
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Dear parents of talent: You can find out all you need to know to get started for free just by reading on the boards and purchasing a book or two; you can send in your child's photo for free to all these agencies. Read up at bizparentz.org, and don't be scammed. Good Luck!
 
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I can't find anything about Amber Heard being connected with the camp or contest.
 
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Originally posted by CSilvera:
Dear parents of talent: You can find out all you need to know to get started for free just by reading on the boards and purchasing a book or two; you can send in your child's photo for free to all these agencies. Read up at bizparentz.org, and don't be scammed. Good Luck!


Gregory James has posted this on 2 other board... looks like he copied and pasted.... I think that all of us up here know that you don't get anything for free & it takes a lot of hard work 2 make it in this biz.....

WE DON'T NEED YOUR WAKE UP CALL!!!!!!!!!! THANK YOU VERY MUCH 4 THINKING OF US MR.JAMES.... We do have are eyes wide open to see and we know whats is best 4 are kids & this forums has been more then helpful with everything I need to help me get started and I do KNOW I NEED TO SPEND MY MONEY TO GET MY DD started... I just don't like the fact that you seem to think that all or most of the parents needed your wake up call.... I think that anyone who is taking there time and reading the boards are a wake and can think for them self.... but this is just what I think.........


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I can't find anything about Amber Heard being connected with the camp or contest.


Rosie ;~)
Some see things as they are and ask why. Others dream things that never were and ask why not.
-George Bernard Shaw
 
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I also thought that Title was a little condisending. It was also posted on themodelchild forum and deleted by Nathan.
KUDOS for Nathan. He seems like he is triing to sell his camp.
N2NY Love your post!!
 
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Dear Parent,

You bring up good questions. I do not mind at all your questions. I believe a parent should due the due diligence. To make this easier to read, I have copied your questions and answered each one in the order you ask them. and YES, I am a good salesman, but that is not the point of me sharing my opinion here.

First, our camp is not for everyone.... I will be the first to state that. In my letter, talent or parents of talent need to determine what it is they want to accomplish, by setting goals, both short term and long term. In this industry, time is on your side and working with the right people can make a huge difference, both in getting started locally, then possible regionally and finally possibly in a major market. To me, I look at the family dynamics, age of the child or teen, geographical location, their picture or image submitted and finally after a phone interview with the parent, the dynamics of the family.

Depending on the conversation, the clarity of the situation (single mom, how many kids are in the family, etc), that would help me determine if I feel the child or teen would be a good fit. If I do feel they might be a good candidate for our June or December Camp, then we extend an invitation and look at their scholarship application. Now let's address your questions:

1. Family A lives in Alabama and has no intention of moving to the NY or LA areas (where most of the print agencies and jobs are located). Why would this child benefit from attending your scouting camp and "networking" with NY or LA agents who really only want talent who are available on short notice to attend "go sees" and auditions?

First, my event is not a scouting event. It is a educational workshop series teaching the elements of the business to talent and their parents. Family A would benefit because I am also the owner and Publisher of Peter Glenn Publications, a 52 year-old entertainment publishing company (www.pgdirect.com). We publish a variety of how to books and resource directories, one of which is the MODEL AND TALENT DIRECTORY, which lists over 2,000 model and talent agencies in the world. Over 750 advertise with us in this one publication and since I have been running PGP since 1993, I have built long standing relationships personally with agencies all over the world. SO, if Family A came to our camp and their short term goal was to work locally or regionally, we would start there. Depending on the wants of the family in the next one or two years to take it to a larger market, the family would have met and started building a relationship with the instructors we bring in. As I stated in my letter, this is a WHO YOU KNOW industry, so once a parent and talent met a great agent (agency) then that timeline for considering a major market MIGHT change things.

2. Family B lives withing driving distance of NYC and are interested in print work only. Say they spend $4000 or $5000 to attend your scouting camp (airfare, tuition, hotel, food, car rental, extras). They meet an agent who wants to send them out. They spend $750 on a comp card. They then start spending $30 (gas, parking, babysitter etc.) to come into town for each go see, and they go on 15-20 go-sees for every job they book. Based on your many years of experience guiding talent in the business,
how long will it take this family to recoup all the money they spent?

First, I do not know how you add up the costs to be $4K or $5K. Before applying for a scholarship, the costs are $2195 with one talent pass and one guest pass. The hotel is $170 a night for 3 nights, which is around $500 and if you add flights estimated at $250 a person, then your total would come to $3195 before they would apply for a scholarship. The scholarships are based on a first come, first serve basis and reviewed once a person applies online and right's a 200-word essay and conduct a phone interview, if we are interested.

Getting back to your question, being that a print work for kids ranges from $70 to $125/hr, it would take a while, BUT why would a person get into this industry ONLY for print work, when the real money is in commercials, TV and film. I manage the Justice model career (she is 11) and Angelica who at the moment does mainly only do print work averages $2,500 a month in working for them, so in her case 1.5 months, BUT that is not the norm and I am the first to say that.

BY THE WAY, WHO WOULD SPEND $750 ON A COMP CARD... THAT IS CRAZY!!!!!!!!

3. Family C has some nice snapshots of their child (an unfussy head and shoulders shot) that they put in an envelope and send to Product, Generation, Ford, W, etc. with ordinary postage. Or, they attend one of the open calls these agencies regularly hold to see new talent. For a total cost of maybe $25. What do you offer them for the additional $4975?

This is a who you know business. Once I and our team of instructors have worked with talent at the camp, we stay involved (FOR NO EXTRA MONEY) Last year, we had 200 girls come to the camp. We are still working and helping those parents and talent succeed on either a local, regional or major level depending on the action plan that we have agreed to with the parents. I have 8 college aged girls moving to NYC this Summer, all doing online college back to their home state and placed with top commercial talent agencies they met at camp. Over the last year, they have been working on their resume, training locally, saving money, preparing to make the transition and now some 11-months later, getting ready to move. Again, this is a journey.

4. Based on your scouting camp model, explain all additional products and services that parents are given an opportunity to purchase while they attend the camp. On average, how much does the typical family spend in those additional services (hotel, classes, coaches, photographs, etc.)?

If you want to know everything that is offered, you can go to the programs section of www.aspiringtalent.com and download the complete 7-page brochure for the KIDS camp or the 11-page one for the TEEN CAMP.

5. Your post mentions that your camp includes a "screen test." Are you promising that each participant gets a genuine "screen test" (as that term is used in the industry) with an actual studio, or do you simulate a "screen test."

The screen test is shot at camp for the KIDS camp. It consists of the talent doing a cold reading (on camera) then one-on-one coaching by Edward Lane then we re-shoot the test after the training. The piece is then provided to the family on a DVD after camp and also uploaded into our software management system, so both we, you and my instructors and contacts can access the talent we are working with.

6. You also mention participants get a "photo shoot" included in the costs. Are you promising a full session (as that term is used in the business) that ends with a CD they own and can make comp cards/headshots from, or are there any additional costs involved?

Under the KIDS camp, it is a full photo shoot, 2-looks, shot on location on Universal property with hair and makeup. YES, you get the complete CD after camp of ALL the shots. Then you would also put the images into our software management system.

7. You claim to have "guided" Amber Heard's development, yet she didn't do your scouting camp you are promoting here, did she? She entered the model search contest you run with other companies, right? That's an entirely different business model, isn't it? What, exactly, have you done to guide her career, and how do you work with her agent and manager to do this?

You are correct Amber did not attend the camp, as I did not teach one when I met her in 2003 while producing the So You Want To Be A Model Contest with ELLEgirl, before moving over to CosmoGIRL. However, over those 5 years, I continue on a weekly basis to be involved in Amber's life. Her agent does a great job and has her best interest at heart, but as Amber has hosted many of my shows and is currently planning, depending on her filming schedule, to come to the June camp, it does dictate I have played a role in her life and continue too. Yes, I am the Producer of the So You Want To Be A Model contest and a good deal of our attendees come from that production, which is also produced by ESB Productions, so I do not see your point completely, but hopefully I have addressed it here.

In closing, our camp is not for everyone, their are costs to produce the camp. One of the piece, MODELING - The Things You Need To Know," I co-wrote with Marie Anderson, the woman who discovered Cindy Crawford, for the NYS Consumer Protection Board on this subject is available for FREE download at www.soyouwanttobeamodel.com

Sincerely,

GJ
 
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I truly find all this information to be benefical to anyone - especially those who want to listen (and learn) like myself. My daughter is only 5, but knowing all of this now makes me feel more prepared. There were good points challenged - and thank you for addressing them.
 
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I'm not exactly sure what to add here. Mr. James did contact me directly via our web site. Since he chose to write here, I think it is fitting that I respond here.

First and foremost, none of the conversations I have participated in are based on WHO a person is - good, bad or otherwise. That's pretty impossible to judge, even with people we know very well. My comments and concerns are based on business models.

In general, I don't find parents have a sense of entitlement. This is an expensive, competitive business, with plenty of sacrifices along the way. The more advanced a career becomes, the more expenses are associated with it. We need coaches, photographers, and other service providers in the industry.

I can understand that Mr. James perspective is that of an entrepreneur - and we all know we are a capitalist country that holds many ideals about what someone can accomplish with their individual business efforts. If this industry could support everyone who wanted to be in it, and everyone who could succeed in it, the need or purpose for this type of training might be slightly different. Between supply and demand, and all of the other intricate issues - the success rate is minimal. So many talented children never get the opportunity to work. So many talented children work once, and never again. A HUGE percentage of families who participate in IMTA, IPOP, JRP, AMTC, etc.. either get absolutely nowhere or find themselves in a situation they are unprepared to deal with. We aren't even talking 50-50 on the odds.. they are more like 98-2, and that is if you consider a success getting agent representation, which I mentioned earlier is just the basic requirement. I know this because we (Anne & I) deal with many, many of those families after the fact - and try to help them make some lemonade out of their lemons.

Mr. James likened this to other business 'training' situations and what you have to invest. I don't know of any other business model where you pay for schooling, training, advice - and there is NO job waiting for you at the end.

To be specific to Mr. James (aka Gregory J. Blount) he has admitted to many business ventures, including:
Peter Glenn Publications
ESB Productions
Aspiring Talent Management
Aspiring Talent Camp
Mymodeldebitcard.com
Soyouwanttobeamodel.com

His varied business' do lend him the opportunity to cross promote and cross sponsor each other.

I see an entrepreneur. From his own web site....

In 2003, Greg partnered with Master Card to create the first ever Model Prepaid Master Card (www.mymodeldebitcard.com) program, a specially designed teen prepaid card program created to teach financial responsibility to teens.

I feel this is clearly another big profit making business venture, as the fees that accompany this card are significant.
$8.95 one time activation
monthly maintenance $3.95
Point Of Sale transaction $ .50
ATM Withdrawal $1.50
Automated Customer service $.50/call
Paper Statement Fee $2.00
Live Customer Service $.80/minute
Card cancellation - check issuance $10.00
Account Dormancy Fee - $2.00

There is a sales pitch here, but I certainly would look to other options when teaching a teen about financial responsibility. But maybe that's just me.

More from the Aspiring Talent web site:
Today, Greg visits with middle and high school students across the US to share his philosophy on using his influence while teach life skills using the performing arts as well as elements of financial responsibility to teenagers

Yikesy for me... and I have to wonder if that includes 'selling' the card and/or the camp and/or whatever else. I would really like to know more about the substance and benefit to students in this vein.

I already did the math on Aspire Camp in my earlier post, of course basing this on information provided by the organizer, and understanding that it isn't a financial disclosure of costs, scholarships, etc. (although one company giving scholarships to another company owned by the same person is curious).

Let's look at the soyouwanttobeamodel.com contest...

Per their press release, they had 20,000 entries.
Per their own FAQ's, there is a $20 registration fee.

So, 20,000 x $20 each = $400,000 in registration fees for this contest.

And 20,000 people were appropriately ready to be models? Now, you can't fault the entrepreneur for what people did in response - he wasn't holding a gun to their heads, although the salesmanship on the web site is pretty compelling.

For me, add to the fact that we are dealing with children, and their families - I think there is far more damage done by this business model than good. I think the sense of 'entitlement' was misplaced when Mr. James thought it belonged on the parents.

I would like to emphasize again, that the same criteria would apply to all similar business models.

I strongly disagree that by dissecting business models we are picking on good people, will make them go away, and will only be left with the bad people. I've personally been a part of, or witnessed the demise of a few bad people, via arrests, prison, death, suicide, etc. So they don't hang around when the spotlight hits them. The good people realize what happens to a majority of the families and change their business model.

My best,
Paula

P.S. The brochure I alluded to earlier from the NYS CPB is not the same one Mr. James is providing (and that link doesn't go to it either). I'm not sure what the confusion is here. The brochure is no longer on the CPB site, and I am looking for a way that it can still be accessed. The NY CPB program was born out of investigations into Fashion Rock / Lou Pearlman. One paragraph from the NYS CPB pamphlet says:
"Be wary of workshops that charge you a fee to be "seen" by or "audition" for a casting director, producer, agent or manager."

P.P.S. A previous business venture that is still listed on the soyouwanttobeamodel.com blogs, modelcampusa.com, now goes to porn. I can see that this name was abandonded, but it might be best to remove that.
 
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Paula,

I have seen from your remarks your stated opinion. Obviously we do have a difference in opinion and we are all entitled to that. The thing I would to clarify is that we once did own the URL for Model Camp USA, we released it when I signed a deal with Universal Studios and changed the camp name to www.AspiringTalent.com. The new owners of the site to whom I have no connection, relationship or knowledge of who owns it has nothing to do with me and my various companies, obviously I do not support that message being displayed.

Where as I agree with you that the percentage of success in a competitive competition is small, I however was a winner of AMTC and was offered a $50,000 contract, which allowed me to move to NY back in the early 1990's. If it wasn't for that, I would not have been introduced to Peter Glenn Publications in 1993 before going on to buy the company in 1997 at age 27. As for the other conventions you mention, I do not support those mainly because I feel the costs of a college tuition far out way the return.

And YES, I am proud of my relationship with MasterCard. Again, if you feel that the message being taught there is not valuable, then we will just have to once again disagree. Our program allows parents to transfer money to their teens Prepaid card and track the spending by granting access to their card account, receive message alerts by email or text. Because the card is not a credit card, it again creates the opportunity for a parent and teen to discuss where they spent their allowance... when was the last time a conversation like that went on. Usually, the answer is... I do not know where I spent my allowance.

As for my name, Gregory J. (obviously for James) was my modeling name, when I was with ZOLI. Blount is my last name, which I suppose you figure that out. We have fixed the link to the FREE downloadable pamphlet for those who want access:
http://www.soyouwanttobeamodel.com/modelingguide/

GJ
 
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Please remember that Success is not given, it is earned!


Wake up call to all parents? Success is earned?

Success is earned Mr. James in this business by raw talent and innocent raw talent shown when a child walks into a casting director's audition room and often ACTS like a child and too much coaching can destroy that real talent. Success is earned, not purchased by reaching into one's bank account.

I usually just read these posts and MominBiz (hope I got the name right) and Paula and bizparentz and so many others have given advice without dipping a hand into a pocket to get started and I think they are doing just fine here without a business entity coming in to disturb, what I think is a supportive system here.

Mr. James, I am a parent of a child that had FUN with the biz with acting. I've been involved as a child advocate now for 10 years working behind the scenes and a have come to know many parents and children. I've worked with the consumer protection board as well for many years on questionable modeling/talent businesses and I'm not directing this at you..I am just saying that I've been there done that for years now confronting this industry.

I've amazingly been able to watch an entire generation of child actors/performers grow up and head off to college and I have a wonderful record as well for starting parents/kids off on their way and all they needed was a postage stamp and a few 4 x 6 pictures and the child took over from there impressing an agent/manager with their talent and the WANT to do this, the want to ACT and have fun.

Mr. James, please define SUCCESS!

I will tell you one thing.. Success is defined in many ways. Some of these children just want to perform on stage..community theater, for example and have a ball with that. If a child does not reach STAR STATUS, does that define them or their parents as unsuccessful?

If they dabbled in the biz and booked a commercial, a guest star role, a student film, a PSA, community theater, a role in the Nutcracker or special holiday performance, dancing, singing...JUST PERFORMING and having fun and not taking away from family finances...money that can be used to college and keeping up their GRADES in school, keeping balanced with their friends at home/peers, joining sports and finding a way to audition and keeping their career SECONDARY at a very young age!

Is that not success? I think it is. Every child is special, whether they reach star status or have fun with community theater.

There is no guarantee in this business Mr. James. WE watch Britney and Lindsay and watch possibly very short careers because they didn't keep a balance in their life with reality. Were they successful in the end?? They reached that star status and then what?

I'm glad I got to watch a generation of children have fun in this biz - kids at ALL different levels in the performing arts and go off to college and know the career can be picked up again but had a college degree to fall back on and I consider that the definition of success and hard work.

You have created a dynasty, I see. You've networked with everyone in the industry and did some pretty heavy name dropping of people in the biz.

I'm gonna think about that song of Shania Twain...You don't impress me much!

Kuddos to all the parents who have networked and shown how to work through this maze and be successful and defined success by keeping the chldren focused on school, their friends, their grades and never believed that the only way through the door was to take thousands out of the family funds to be seen by top agents!

I'm sure your business will succeed. You are a good salesman but please, Mr. James, success is defined in many different ways.
 
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Does it not bother any of you that this is a direct sales pitch? This board isn't for shilling a business, it is for us to help each other in "the biz."

I suggest not giving this person any additional response and maybe he'll try to sell his services in a more appropriate way, like by BUYING advertising.
 
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DITTO!
 
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I feel this is clearly another big profit making business venture, as the fees that accompany this card are significant.
$8.95 one time activation
monthly maintenance $3.95
Point Of Sale transaction $ .50
ATM Withdrawal $1.50
Automated Customer service $.50/call
Paper Statement Fee $2.00
Live Customer Service $.80/minute
Card cancellation - check issuance $10.00
Account Dormancy Fee - $2.00


Mr. James likened this to other business 'training' situations and what you have to invest. I don't know of any other business model where you pay for schooling, training, advice - and there is NO job waiting for you at the end.



ouch, is that for REAL? they charge you to use the account, to not use the account, you can't win! how is that financially responsible? i've been a member of multiple banks and not one has had THAT many fees. ouch!

anyway, this dude seems demented. the more we respond, the more he'll continue to write and respond, and who knows, maybe someone will be convinced to do it. ignore him. it's for the best. i'll be blunt about it Smiler thats what i'm good for.

and whats sad is that the parents who pay for their kids to do IPOP, IMTA, and programs like this- they have no money! I know, I went to IMTA, I saw it, I saw who attended, they dont have money. training, conventions, and what? no job at the end, i totally agree with that statement.

bottomfeeders. shameful.
 
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Mr. James, I actually have read more than I care to about how you operate so that I would know who I was dealing with before I even posted. You go around the country (using CRAIGSLIST!!!) SCOUTING kids for these camps and you promise their parents to develop careers for them.

You prey on parents who are desperate for fame for their kids, and you charge them a substantial sum of money to let them believe. Kids with genuine talent and ability don't need you or your services.

Shame on you for calling it a "screen test." You mislead parents by doing that. It is not a "screen test," and you know it.

Shame on you for refusing to answer my question about what other services campers and parents are assaulted with, and how much more a typical parents spends. So you take that "screen test" and you put it on a website ($$) and you take those headshots and upload them ($$) and you hook them up with local coaches and photographers and classes ($$$) so they can "prepare" for the big time. That's not how the legitimate side of this business is done. At least not in NY or LA.

Shame on you for suggesting you "guided" Amber Heard's development, when all she did was win a contest you were involved in. She appears at your events? That makes you responsible for her success?

Shame on you feeding parents so much fairy dust and false hope.

I really had no problem with Nathan Yungerberg until I saw he had hooked up with you and scouting. Let him charge for his website, and take money for a book that hasn't been written yet. Parents will eventually learn the same information is available for free. But when he hooked up with you, and scouting, he lost all credibility with me. And many, many other parents here agree.

I cannot allow your kind of business model to go unchallenged on a board where parents look for sound advice about this business.

A rose is a rose is a rose, and you, Mr. James, are a thorn.



Q: How did you determine that I or my child is model/actor potential?

Answer: Based on the evaluation of the information you provided us, we looked at 3 important factors, which are age, geographical location and their photo. The only missing point we cannot determine, which is why we request a phone interview, is desire. Desire and ambition is almost as equally important that the other 3 elements combined.

So, nothing about "clarity of the situation," or single moms, or family dynamics. You see a picture, you make the call, they tell you "Oh yes, it's always been my daighter's dream . . ." you tell them they have what it takes, and by the way, show me the money.
 
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