Wow, Ladies its MOTHERS DAY..... Can EVERYONE just stop......


It would be so nice if the moderators for this board would CLOSE this post. It has spun out of control.

Ladies, Please enjoy the rest of your mothers day, and lets share kind words and happy thoughts.

I say again, it's MOTHERS DAY..................

OMG....I know who this person is! This whole thing soooo makes sense now! You people have no idea how right on you have been in your assessments about this person. It is almost scary.

LOL. We know all about it ilovenyc. Welcome to backstage.

PS. Hey Stephie, whose breaking their fingernails now? Did you get everything taken down yet?

The only threads that get closed on this forum are those involving certain advertisors of bs.com.

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Originally posted by ilovenyc:
OMG....I know who this person is! This whole thing soooo makes sense now! You people have no idea how right on you have been in your assessments about this person. It is almost scary.

Do tell..... I would love to hear some first-person knowledge about this person. If she's anything like the insane posts she's left here the past couple of days, it's GOT to be very scary!

Any insight on this, and I am being serious here.....Why would the top agencies of NY promote this contest if they were not supporting him 100%? The names that I have read who will be meeting with the winner are Generation MM, Funny Face Today and Product MM. Why would they risk their reputation if this wouldn't be good for their agency?

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Originally posted by drcole22:
Any insight on this, and I am being serious here.....Why would the top agencies of NY promote this contest if they were not supporting him 100%? The names that I have read who will be meeting with the winner are Generation MM, Funny Face Today and Product MM. Why would they risk their reputation if this wouldn't be good for their agency?

I don't think they're "promoting", "supporting", or "sponsoring" it at all. It would look pretty low for a reputable agency to promote or sponsor a contest like this....

I think what's happening is that Nathan Yungerberg knows people at these agencies and they've agreed to meet with the winner. I thought it was only 2 agencies (Product & Generation)?

It is indeed all three - perhaps more though. Their logos were on the main web page and also in the promotional ads. The book is also going to have contributions from people at the top NY agencies - not sure how much. There is obvious support here.

For the record, I also removed most of my post with the personal info that I know. And I am the former pageant mom, not actorsmommy. I have no idea who actorsmommy is, but I was the one who knew SC from pageants.

I don't post on this site often...in fact i think that this is my first time posting here...but i read the posts. i just wanted to say that even though i don't live in NY or anywhere near...Nathan had interest in my child and spent a long time on the phone with me. he was sincere and informative. i really appreciated all that he shared with me. I hope one day his photography skills will help my children get great headshots/comp. cards. I think his book will have some great info in it as well. any parent who is in the business knows that being informed is of the upmost importance and good info can come from any source. I think we are lucky to have found someone who has been involved in the industry for so long and in so many different aspects...he should have much to share...that i am sure we could benefit from. true---you shouldn't have to buy it to vote..but i am excited to see what he has to offer. just thought i would give my opinion.

This letter is to all you parents of aspiring talent:

I am writing this note in response to the recent discussions on that have appear on backstage.com with regard to Nathan, The Model Child Cover Model Search and even on my Aspiring Talent Camp at Universal Studios that Paula at BizParentz discussed here a few days ago. As a parent myself, I understand the desire of each of you to help and want to guide your child in this industry and want success for them. In speaking to some of you and in my various other productions for CosmoGIRL, Rampage, ELLEgirl, MasterCard and Universal Studios, I have met the families of countless talent wanting to know...

What does it take to break into this industry? What should I pay for? and how much is too much and most importantly, does my child have what it takes? The way I look at this is that this is a personal journey that you can take with your child and based on KNOWLEDGE, COMMON SENSE and COMMITMENT, one can develop a successful career for/with their child.

What I cannot stand for with over 20 years in the business and having been a former model and actor with 8 agencies from NY to LA is the concept that you feel ENTITLEMENT. That you are owed something because you child is beautiful. As a Producer and Publisher of a 52 year-old publishing company, know one handed me a anything. It was my own desire that helped me build successful projects and productions with a lot of hard work, commitment and heart. I think forums are a great venue, but each of you need to judge the value to YOU and YOUR OWN CHILD. No two talent are alike and most of the time, a families personal situation determines their starting point on this journey, but when people attack the GOOD PEOPLE in the industry, then all you will be left with is the BAD PEOPLE. In EVERY industry you do have good and bad... doctors, lawyers, agents

If you agree or disagree with the concept of Nathan charging a fee to join the Model Child community and get the book or not is YOUR OPINION and you are entitled to that, BUT when a person is running a business and takes over a year to develop a project of this nature, which takes $$$$$ to build, hire programers, designers and such, then you have to question is $25 really too much money for the countless years of experience Nathan, myself and others are trying to share to protect you and your child. As for our camp at Universal Studios, again there are costs associated with producing the project, bringing in the instructors, feeding them, you, your child. Is it worth the costs? Well you need to decide for yourself and way out the benefits of what is included over the 3-day event.

Yes, I wish everything in life could be FREE including private schools, colleges, singing lessons, dance classes etc, BUT IT ISN'T!!!! And usually if it is FREE, it probably isn't worth it anyways. However, as parents you need to be educated, determine how much you are willing to spend and based on your own family circumstances determine what you are willing to do or not to help your child in this industry.

Please remember that Success is not given, it is earned!

Sincerely,

Gregory James
Executive Producer
ESB Productions
Peter Glenn Publications

Greg is right, many people do enter this industry expecting a "free ride", yet are
critical of many legitimate professionals
who charge fees for their products or services. Parents need to research & equip themselves w/ credible & accurate information. When correctly informed, a person can make educated decisions on who they should do business with & allows them to pursue their goals in a manner which is suitable for their family. And for the record, I have the utmost respect for Nathan Yungerberg & his team & I'm proud to be a member of The Model Child community. Have a great day!

Dear parents of talent: You can find out all you need to know to get started for free just by reading on the boards and purchasing a book or two; you can send in your child's photo for free to all these agencies. Read up at bizparentz.org, and don't be scammed. Good Luck!

GregoryJames and mystylekids - I couldn't agree with you more! I said what I had to say about this entire topic and appreciate all the helpful postings from people who have a concern for new parents/families in the business.

Hello,

I have taken the time to contemplate before I expressed myself to ensure my message was clear. First of all I want to say that I have heard your questions and concerns, and we are receptive to suggestions to improve our site. After careful thought and consideration we have decided to open up the community to anyone who wants to join, without charge. New members will be able to participate in our casting call voting process. In an effort to separate the casting call from the book orders, we are willing to issue a refund to any anyone who pre-ordered the book; requests can be directed to contact@themodelchild.com. (All community memberships will remain active after the refund.) We will be extending the voting deadline until midnight on May 17th and we will announce our winner on May 21st. I also hear your concerns about the “scouting” aspect of my site. I come from a background in the fashion industry where “model scout” is a perfectly acceptable and legitimate title. It was simply an oversight on my part if it is not acceptable in this aspect of the industry, and we will definitely reconsider the use of that word. The community changes will take effect beginning tomorrow evening.

Thank you

Nathan Yungerberg
The Model Child