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Kevin Bacon
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can an actor, who is sag, work a non-union commercial ?
 
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Morgan Freeman
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that same actor who is SAG can also drink a cup of draino.

It isnt what a union member can or cannot do, its the consequenses.

working a non-signatory production will result in either fines, or dismissal from the union or some other creative punishment.

when in doubt, call the union and ask.
 
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Russell Crowe
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Yep-can't do non-union commercials if you are SAG. N/U commercials just pay whatever they want-there is no "scale", and it is a buyout of some kind.
 
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Hilary Swank
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NO!


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Glenn Close
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WHERE do these people come from? (sigh)
 
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Kevin Bacon
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What PEOPLE are you talking about?
 
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Kevin Bacon
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What about if it is in a Right To Work state?
 
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Morgan Freeman
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Right to work is when non-union can do union work, but is moot as CA and NY dont have such laws.

In florida for example, you dont have to join a union to keep working in the union's jurisdiction. here in NY, those non-union can work in the union jurisdicion for a short amount of time, and then are barred from working more unless they join the union.

So its like they had a taste of what its like, but to have more, they gotta pay the piper.
 
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Kevin Bacon
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so, if i was offered a non-union role in a right to work state, while being SAG, I would have to decline the offer ?
 
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Sean Penn
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I think you should do what SAGAFTRAAEA suggested, call the SAG office and ask...

As far as I know, since you are already IN the Union (I assume that you joined SAG, not SAG Eligible) - I don't think you can work on a Non-Union Commercial. In some States (Texas, for example) you can be SAG Eligible and continue to work on more SAG projects without being "Forced to Join." The Right to Work applies to Non-Union Talents to on Union Gigs. I don't think it's the other way around.
 
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Morgan Freeman
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DUDE ! are you even SAG ?

if you are, turn your SAG CARD over and what does it say?
 
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Kevin Bacon
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DUDE! get off your surfboard and be nice....

I love having jerks like you on this site.
 
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Sean Penn
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quote:
Originally posted by SAGAFTRAAEA:
Right to work is when non-union can do union work, but is moot as CA and NY dont have such laws.

In florida for example, you dont have to join a union to keep working in the union's jurisdiction. here in NY, those non-union can work in the union jurisdicion for a short amount of time, and then are barred from working more unless they join the union.

So its like they had a taste of what its like, but to have more, they gotta pay the piper.


Hayate_Rico13, SAGAFTRAAEA is not being a jerk. He (i assume SAGAFTRAAEA is a Guy) already told you that Right to work applies to Non-Union talents to work on SAG project... But you dont seem to get it. He's just worry that you might get yourself in trouble and got booted by the Union.

In this case, You will have to decline the Non-Union Commercial offer, not unless the producer can work something out with SAG. When you booked/audition for the commercial, were you aware that it's a Non-Union only production? Did they know your union status?
 
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Morgan Freeman
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My only guess is that he currently is non-union, but is deciding wether or not to join because he currently work alot in non-union commercials....


RULE 1
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“No member shall work as a performer or make an agreement to work as a performer for any producer who has not executed a basic minimum agreement with the Guild which is in full force and effect.” - from the SAG Constitution

In plain language, that means that a SAG member must always work under a union contract, and must NEVER work non-union.
 
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Morgan Freeman
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HAYATE, I assumed you had a SAG CARD to turn over. It didnt occur to me that you were non-sag.

So here is the back so you can see.. cheers.



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