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Russell Crowe
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So excited to report that AB1319 has been passed by the Governor!

This bill creates an extensive system of labels and requirements for Advanced Fee Talent Services. Now, many new services will be covered, including internet listing services, anyone who charges an advance fee etc. Truth in advertising is covered, mandatory cancellation clauses, etc.

There are four categories of talent services under the bill (not counting Talent Agents, who have their own law).

ILLEGAL
Advance Fee Talent Representation Service (agents and managers who charge an upfront fee instead of a percentage of income).

LEGAL BUT REGULATED ($50K bond, certain wording, right to cancel in 10 days, no contracts for more than a year, they must keep extensive records, etc):

--Talent Counseling Service (companies who charge a fee to "get you started", talent promotional companies, etc)
--Talent Listing Service (internet companies that list jobs and actor profiles--databases)
--Talent Training Service (companies that charge for long term contracts for training, seminars, workshops, etc)

Most of these types of services will have to post a bond of $50,000 so if they rip people off, there will at least be some hope of getting the family's money back.

It also makes it ILLEGAL TO SELL ACCESS TO A TALENT AGENT, CHARGE FOR AN AUDITION OR A JOB. Sooo...all those companies who are simply selling an opportunity to meet and by signed by agents will need to curb their activities.

Another tidbit: actors who find themselves used as a "success" story by one of these businesses can ask for their name and/or photo to be removed and the business has to do it.

Woo hoo!! This is a HUGE step for consumers.

To read the actual text of the bill click here:
http://leginfo.ca.gov/pub/09-1...090910_enrolled.html
 
Posts: 192 | Location: Los Angeles, CA | Registered: February 21, 2007Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Kevin Bacon
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Woooow....They really broke it down, didn't they?

Thanks for relaying this info to us! (Well, me- atleast)
 
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Jack Nicholson
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I am really really glad to hear this. Thanks for posting!!


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Posts: 801 | Location: Los Angeles, CA | Registered: February 14, 2008Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Julia Roberts
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You can tell whose side the governor is on!!! Wink

Yay!!!!


"It took the Universe 14 billion years to make my body. The least I can do is show some respect and take good care of it."
 
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Hilary Swank
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Originally posted by henryshowbiz:
So excited to report that AB1319 has been passed by the Governor!

This bill creates an extensive system of labels and requirements for Advanced Fee Talent Services. Now, many new services will be covered, including internet listing services, anyone who charges an advance fee etc. Truth in advertising is covered, mandatory cancellation clauses, etc.

There are four categories of talent services under the bill (not counting Talent Agents, who have their own law).

ILLEGAL
Advance Fee Talent Representation Service (agents and managers who charge an upfront fee instead of a percentage of income).

LEGAL BUT REGULATED ($50K bond, certain wording, right to cancel in 10 days, no contracts for more than a year, they must keep extensive records, etc):

--Talent Counseling Service (companies who charge a fee to "get you started", talent promotional companies, etc)
--Talent Listing Service (internet companies that list jobs and actor profiles--databases)
--Talent Training Service (companies that charge for long term contracts for training, seminars, workshops, etc)

Most of these types of services will have to post a bond of $50,000 so if they rip people off, there will at least be some hope of getting the family's money back.

It also makes it ILLEGAL TO SELL ACCESS TO A TALENT AGENT, CHARGE FOR AN AUDITION OR A JOB. Sooo...all those companies who are simply selling an opportunity to meet and by signed by agents will need to curb their activities.

Another tidbit: actors who find themselves used as a "success" story by one of these businesses can ask for their name and/or photo to be removed and the business has to do it.

Woo hoo!! This is a HUGE step for consumers.

To read the actual text of the bill click here:
http://leginfo.ca.gov/pub/09-1...090910_enrolled.html


Score one for the good guys!!

Jim
 
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Kevin Bacon
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This is good. :-)
 
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Harrison Ford
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Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay! *clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*

Now, I wonder how long it will actually take to start working!


- MIB -
If you can dream, you can do. Making it happen is up to you.
 
Posts: 1162 | Location: SoCal | Registered: July 13, 2005Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Morgan Freeman
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Originally posted by Mominbiz:
Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay! *clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*

Now, I wonder how long it will actually take to start working!


Continuing those claps here!!!!

Amazing step forward! Hopefully it will set a template for other states to follow as well!

High Five to SAG for their support!
 
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Johnny Depp
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Originally posted by Janet P:
quote:
Originally posted by Mominbiz:
Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay! *clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*

Now, I wonder how long it will actually take to start working!


Continuing those claps here!!!!

Amazing step forward! Hopefully it will set a template for other states to follow as well!

High Five to SAG for their support!



I Absolutely Agree. If New York,Chicago and any other Major and Small Markets follow suit,then I really will shed tears of Joy!

I am so Happy that the State of California is Supporting this!

GREAT NEWS!! and Thank you SO much for posting this Great News Smiler


"Luck is only important in so far as getting the chance to sell yourself at the right moment. After that, you've got to have talent and know how to use it."-Frank Sinatra
 
Posts: 51 | Location: NY and L.A (im a bicoastal baby)  | Registered: May 25, 2009Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Russell Crowe
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Since our industry seems to think everyone is always fighting, I want to point out that this bill was an INCREDIBLE joint effort. These are the organizations that worked hard to get this done. It involved a million re-writes, lobbyists from each organization ($$$), trips to Sacramento to testify...basically a year of full time work. These are not just names on a list, I promise--these organizations WORKED.

Look at this list. Is there any doubt that the industry is just SICK of the scammers? This is who deserves the high fives:

Sponsor and Author: Assemblyman Paul Krekorian, Burbank

Office of the Los Angeles City Attorney
Better Business Bureau
Screen Actors Guild
BizParentz Foundation
Billy DaMota Casting
California District Attorney's Association
Marin County District Attorney
Orange County District Attorney
San Diego City Attorney
San Francisco District Attorney
The Walt Disney Company
The Motion Picture Association of America, Inc. (includes Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures, Paramount Pictures Corporation, Sony Pictures Entertainment, Inc., Twentieth Century Fox Film Corp., Universal Studios LLLP, Warner Bros. Entertainment Inc.)

The lone opposition to the bill?
John Robert Powers and their affiliated companies. They actually created a *new* "organization" to oppose the bill. They called it "Association of Modeling and Talent Agencies".
NO ONE in that "organization" is a licensed talent agent.

Just want to give credit where credit is due.

Cheers big time,
A
 
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Kevin Bacon
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quote:
Originally posted by henryshowbiz:
Since our industry seems to think everyone is always fighting, I want to point out that this bill was an INCREDIBLE joint effort. These are the organizations that worked hard to get this done. It involved a million re-writes, lobbyists from each organization ($$$), trips to Sacramento to testify...basically a year of full time work. These are not just names on a list, I promise--these organizations WORKED.

Look at this list. Is there any doubt that the industry is just SICK of the scammers? This is who deserves the high fives:

Sponsor and Author: Assemblyman Paul Krekorian, Burbank

Office of the Los Angeles City Attorney
Better Business Bureau
Screen Actors Guild
BizParentz Foundation
Billy DaMota Casting
California District Attorney's Association
Marin County District Attorney
Orange County District Attorney
San Diego City Attorney
San Francisco District Attorney
The Walt Disney Company
The Motion Picture Association of America, Inc. (includes Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures, Paramount Pictures Corporation, Sony Pictures Entertainment, Inc., Twentieth Century Fox Film Corp., Universal Studios LLLP, Warner Bros. Entertainment Inc.)

The lone opposition to the bill?
John Robert Powers and their affiliated companies. They actually created a *new* "organization" to oppose the bill. They called it "Association of Modeling and Talent Agencies".
NO ONE in that "organization" is a licensed talent agent.

Just want to give credit where credit is due.

Cheers big time,
A


AHAHAHAHA! Take that, John Robert Powers. Try to suck me in, will yah. *Angry fist*

I'm still so stoked about this bill. If I wasn't poor, I'd go out and celebrate.
 
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Harrison Ford
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Hennryshowbiz,

Congratulations and thank you, thank you, thank you to you and all those involved! But, I think if it weren't for your efforts and the BizParentz Foundation, this would not yet have come to fruition. This industry and new actors and their families everywhere, young and old, are all so lucky to have you with your drive and determination to not give up, even with all the flack you may have received along the way.

And a shout out and thank you to Billy DaMota, as well! I miss seeing him on this board!

Hopefully your efforts and this BILL will be one that can create enough awareness to be passed in every state.

I'm so proud of you, A! Okay, so NOW you can go on The View and Oprah to help spread the word! Big Grin


- MIB -
If you can dream, you can do. Making it happen is up to you.
 
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Kevin Bacon
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Then how is it that NOW CASTING and LA CASTING can charge those bull**** prices for castings and to change a stupid picture? That bill isn't going to stop anyone. CD's are still charging for workshops, Wait I forgot, now it's a seminar. All crap.
 
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Harrison Ford
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Originally posted by Ricky1009:
Then how is it that NOW CASTING and LA CASTING can charge those bull**** prices for castings and to change a stupid picture? That bill isn't going to stop anyone. CD's are still charging for workshops, Wait I forgot, now it's a seminar. All crap.
Apples and oranges, Ricky! LACastng, Nowcasting and Actors Access are reputable casting websites that are not in the same category at all.


- MIB -
If you can dream, you can do. Making it happen is up to you.
 
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Sean Penn
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It also makes it ILLEGAL TO SELL ACCESS TO A TALENT AGENT, CHARGE FOR AN AUDITION OR A JOB. Sooo...all those companies who are simply selling an opportunity to meet and by signed by agents will need to curb their activities.



I've read through the very intricate and dense wording of the legislative bill. But I couldn't figure out if this regulates the numerous "workshops" that take actors' money in exchange for the opportunity to meet casting directors (and agents). Can they still get away with that by just verbally stating (with robotic obligation and in mock disdain) "the presence of a casting director is not a promise or guarantee of employment"? There seems to be lots of language in the bill about what an "audition" is:
quote:

"Audition" means any activity for the purpose of obtaining employment, compensated or not, as an artist whereby an artist meets with, interviews or performs before, or displays his or her talent before, any person, including a producer, a director, or a casting director, or an associate, representative, or designee of a producer, director, or casting director, who has, or is represented to have, input into the decision to select an artist for an employment opportunity.

Can those "workshops" still get away with charging actors to "meet" casting directors (and show their work) by simply saying it's not an "audition"? I know there are lots of people that love those workshops and feel it's their right to have them, but they always piss me off. A casting director's job is to meet actors. Why should we support the concept that it's okay to pay them (and the workshop owners) for the chance to meet them?
 
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