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Me too  I'd like to learn about any type of info you get Jackie. Thanks. Oh LADelight, do you know if the new rates apply in NY. I'm moving there and if I need to do extra work to get my SAG eligibility, will  . After reading your answer I know to be upfront, clear and negotiate about getting a SAG voucher. Thanks
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| Posts: 79 | Location: Miami and New York | Registered: January 06, 2007 |    |
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Sean Penn
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quote: Originally posted by whiterose: Oh LADelight, do you know if the new rates apply in NY. I'm moving there and if I need to do extra work to get my SAG eligibility, will  . After reading your answer I know to be upfront, clear and negotiate about getting a SAG voucher. Thanks
The rates apply in NY as well-n/u pay will be based on whatever minimum wage is there. There are more spots alotted for SAG there(the first 50 for TV vs. 19 in LA; first 80 for films vs. 50 in LA). This is a win-win for both union and non because more SAG get work and the n/u that work have a better chance of getting a voucher.
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| Posts: 151 | Location: Los Angeles | Registered: January 15, 2008 |    |
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Sean Penn
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quote: Originally posted by LADelight: quote: Originally posted by whiterose: Oh LADelight, do you know if the new rates apply in NY. I'm moving there and if I need to do extra work to get my SAG eligibility, will  . After reading your answer I know to be upfront, clear and negotiate about getting a SAG voucher. Thanks
The rates apply in NY as well-n/u pay will be based on whatever minimum wage is there. There are more spots alotted for SAG there(the first 50 for TV vs. 19 in LA; first 80 for films vs. 50 in LA). This is a win-win for both union and non because more SAG get work and the n/u that work have a better chance of getting a voucher.
Great! Thanks 
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| Posts: 79 | Location: Miami and New York | Registered: January 06, 2007 |    |
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quote: Originally posted by Worth More: "You have to be prepared to stand up and demand what you deserve at the risk of being fired, or you will be taken advantage of. What's the worst that you lose-a n/u voucher and a day's worth of minimum wage pay?"
Wow, someones got the war paint on her face !
Worth More, I think that person has a valid point. I mean, *metaphorically*, you should go in with your war face on. I wouldn't go around pitching a fit, but at least put your foot down if you feel taken advantage of. After much back-and-forth, Jackie wasn't able to get an answer from SAG, but I will tell you what I experienced. By some stroke of luck, I was called back for exactly 3 more days of stand-in. Each time, I personally checked the "waiver" box on my voucher. Now, I'm not sure if you are "supposed" to determine your own waiver without the consent of the PA or whoever signs the form, but I figured, what the heck, If they see that I checked waiver and say something, at that point I can have a conversation with them about how I need to be waivered as a Stand-in, and the worst they'll do is say no, but they could just sign the form and not say anything. And that's exactly what happened-They didn't say anything about my little check mark. So, go me. Yeah!
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| Posts: 19 | Location: MA | Registered: April 04, 2008 |    |
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Sean Penn
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quote: Originally posted by leafygreens: quote: Originally posted by Worth More: "You have to be prepared to stand up and demand what you deserve at the risk of being fired, or you will be taken advantage of. What's the worst that you lose-a n/u voucher and a day's worth of minimum wage pay?"
Wow, someones got the war paint on her face !
Worth More, I think that person has a valid point. I mean, *metaphorically*, you should go in with your war face on. I wouldn't go around pitching a fit, but at least put your foot down if you feel taken advantage of. After much back-and-forth, Jackie wasn't able to get an answer from SAG, but I will tell you what I experienced. By some stroke of luck, I was called back for exactly 3 more days of stand-in. Each time, I personally checked the "waiver" box on my voucher. Now, I'm not sure if you are "supposed" to determine your own waiver without the consent of the PA or whoever signs the form, but I figured, what the heck, If they see that I checked waiver and say something, at that point I can have a conversation with them about how I need to be waivered as a Stand-in, and the worst they'll do is say no, but they could just sign the form and not say anything. And that's exactly what happened-They didn't say anything about my little check mark. So, go me. Yeah!
Do vouchers expire? I have 2 from 2002. Damn! now that I remember I should have 3  can't find it though. Anyways, now that i read your story, 1 of my vouchers doesn't have any of the boxes checked, it's signed but not checked; u, w/th nor n/u  could I ever use this?
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| Posts: 79 | Location: Miami and New York | Registered: January 06, 2007 |    |
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Sean Penn
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quote: Originally posted by whiterose: Do vouchers expire? I have 2 from 2002. Damn! now that I remember I should have 3  can't find it though. Anyways, now that i read your story, 1 of my vouchers doesn't have any of the boxes checked, it's signed but not checked; u, w/th nor n/u  could I ever use this?
Vouchers don't expire. Whether boxes were checked or not--what matters is the pay you got. If you were paid whatever the SAG rate was in '02, then the work is valid as a means of eligibility. If you got minimum wage it was n/u pay. You can check your eligibility on sag.org-if you got paid union wages 3 times you should be eligible. There is a remote chance they missed them-if you still have the pay stubs w/union rates you can present them to prove your eligibility.
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| Posts: 151 | Location: Los Angeles | Registered: January 15, 2008 |    |
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Sean Penn
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quote: Originally posted by LADelight: quote: Originally posted by whiterose: Do vouchers expire? I have 2 from 2002. Damn! now that I remember I should have 3  can't find it though. Anyways, now that i read your story, 1 of my vouchers doesn't have any of the boxes checked, it's signed but not checked; u, w/th nor n/u  could I ever use this?
Vouchers don't expire. Whether boxes were checked or not--what matters is the pay you got. If you were paid whatever the SAG rate was in '02, then the work is valid as a means of eligibility. If you got minimum wage it was n/u pay. You can check your eligibility on sag.org-if you got paid union wages 3 times you should be eligible. There is a remote chance they missed them-if you still have the pay stubs w/union rates you can present them to prove your eligibility.
Ok, I guess not then.  The vouchers are yellow. They each have a basic wage rate written 75/10 (i'm guessing that's n/u rate) and the pay stub I have from the third voucher I lost and from a different project has 75/10 too. 
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| Posts: 79 | Location: Miami and New York | Registered: January 06, 2007 |    |
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quote: Originally posted by whiterose: Does this mean that all extras will get a SAG voucher?
Feature Film SAG WAIVER SAG AND NON-SAG WELCOME PAY RATE: $200/8 AND OT
Very featured, SAG waiver involved. SAG and NON SAG are welcome to submit
No, that just means the film has permission from SAG to make a movie. The film can get a waiver, and actors can get a waiver, but they are 2 different things. Also I would be wary of any movie - not necessarily this one- that advertises giving away waivers. Probably a scam.
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| Posts: 19 | Location: MA | Registered: April 04, 2008 |    |
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