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Nicholas Cage
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I'm working on this for the column...will keep you guys informed.


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Posts: 437 | Location: Los Angeles, CA | Registered: February 14, 2008Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Russell Crowe
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I got a question, when I was an extra for a SAG movie, I got a voucher that was pink, but it said employer's copy. On the right side it says "Daily Voucher" and right above that it says "SAG Number" and in the corner there's a number. The boxes where the person checks the box has extra, silent bit, or stand in. Both non-union and union got the same amount of money for the job (as extra). The parent of the local company (that hired us) was Central Casting. I heard SAG just recently started the 3 voucher thing (only for full scale SAG movies/tv, and commercials), but at the time the movie was shot, we didn't have it. The pay (for everyone) was $58.76/8.
 
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Nicholas Cage
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SO, at long last SAG has replied to my questions about this thread. Unfortunately, the answer they have was really more or less "call SAG." I will address this in the column next time out and link it here. So sorry I couldn't get more specifics for you all...Often, the unions are hesitant to be specific with individual cases. It makes sense, I just wish the rules were clearer so it wouldn't need to be that way....


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Sean Penn
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Me too Big Grin I'd like to learn about any type of info you get Jackie. Thanks.

Oh LADelight, do you know if the new rates apply in NY. I'm moving there and if I need to do extra work to get my SAG eligibility, will Wink. After reading your answer I know to be upfront, clear and negotiate about getting a SAG voucher. Thanks
 
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Sean Penn
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Oh LADelight, do you know if the new rates apply in NY. I'm moving there and if I need to do extra work to get my SAG eligibility, will Wink. After reading your answer I know to be upfront, clear and negotiate about getting a SAG voucher. Thanks


The rates apply in NY as well-n/u pay will be based on whatever minimum wage is there. There are more spots alotted for SAG there(the first 50 for TV vs. 19 in LA; first 80 for films vs. 50 in LA). This is a win-win for both union and non because more SAG get work and the n/u that work have a better chance of getting a voucher.
 
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Sean Penn
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Originally posted by whiterose:

Oh LADelight, do you know if the new rates apply in NY. I'm moving there and if I need to do extra work to get my SAG eligibility, will Wink. After reading your answer I know to be upfront, clear and negotiate about getting a SAG voucher. Thanks


The rates apply in NY as well-n/u pay will be based on whatever minimum wage is there. There are more spots alotted for SAG there(the first 50 for TV vs. 19 in LA; first 80 for films vs. 50 in LA). This is a win-win for both union and non because more SAG get work and the n/u that work have a better chance of getting a voucher.


Great! Thanks Smiler
 
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"You have to be prepared to stand up and demand what you deserve at the risk of being fired, or you will be taken advantage of. What's the worst that you lose-a n/u voucher and a day's worth of minimum wage pay?"

Wow, someones got the war paint on her face !
 
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"You have to be prepared to stand up and demand what you deserve at the risk of being fired, or you will be taken advantage of. What's the worst that you lose-a n/u voucher and a day's worth of minimum wage pay?"

Wow, someones got the war paint on her face !


Worth More, I think that person has a valid point. I mean, *metaphorically*, you should go in with your war face on. I wouldn't go around pitching a fit, but at least put your foot down if you feel taken advantage of.

After much back-and-forth, Jackie wasn't able to get an answer from SAG, but I will tell you what I experienced. By some stroke of luck, I was called back for exactly 3 more days of stand-in. Each time, I personally checked the "waiver" box on my voucher. Now, I'm not sure if you are "supposed" to determine your own waiver without the consent of the PA or whoever signs the form, but I figured, what the heck, If they see that I checked waiver and say something, at that point I can have a conversation with them about how I need to be waivered as a Stand-in, and the worst they'll do is say no, but they could just sign the form and not say anything. And that's exactly what happened-They didn't say anything about my little check mark. So, go me. Yeah!
 
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Originally posted by Worth More:
"You have to be prepared to stand up and demand what you deserve at the risk of being fired, or you will be taken advantage of. What's the worst that you lose-a n/u voucher and a day's worth of minimum wage pay?"

Wow, someones got the war paint on her face !


Worth More, I think that person has a valid point. I mean, *metaphorically*, you should go in with your war face on. I wouldn't go around pitching a fit, but at least put your foot down if you feel taken advantage of.

After much back-and-forth, Jackie wasn't able to get an answer from SAG, but I will tell you what I experienced. By some stroke of luck, I was called back for exactly 3 more days of stand-in. Each time, I personally checked the "waiver" box on my voucher. Now, I'm not sure if you are "supposed" to determine your own waiver without the consent of the PA or whoever signs the form, but I figured, what the heck, If they see that I checked waiver and say something, at that point I can have a conversation with them about how I need to be waivered as a Stand-in, and the worst they'll do is say no, but they could just sign the form and not say anything. And that's exactly what happened-They didn't say anything about my little check mark. So, go me. Yeah!


Do vouchers expire? I have 2 from 2002. Damn! now that I remember I should have 3 Frowner can't find it though. Anyways, now that i read your story, 1 of my vouchers doesn't have any of the boxes checked, it's signed but not checked; u, w/th nor n/u Big Grin could I ever use this?
 
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Sean Penn
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Do vouchers expire? I have 2 from 2002. Damn! now that I remember I should have 3 Frowner can't find it though. Anyways, now that i read your story, 1 of my vouchers doesn't have any of the boxes checked, it's signed but not checked; u, w/th nor n/u Big Grin could I ever use this?


Vouchers don't expire. Whether boxes were checked or not--what matters is the pay you got. If you were paid whatever the SAG rate was in '02, then the work is valid as a means of eligibility. If you got minimum wage it was n/u pay. You can check your eligibility on sag.org-if you got paid union wages 3 times you should be eligible. There is a remote chance they missed them-if you still have the pay stubs w/union rates you can present them to prove your eligibility.
 
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Sean Penn
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Originally posted by whiterose:

Do vouchers expire? I have 2 from 2002. Damn! now that I remember I should have 3 Frowner can't find it though. Anyways, now that i read your story, 1 of my vouchers doesn't have any of the boxes checked, it's signed but not checked; u, w/th nor n/u Big Grin could I ever use this?


Vouchers don't expire. Whether boxes were checked or not--what matters is the pay you got. If you were paid whatever the SAG rate was in '02, then the work is valid as a means of eligibility. If you got minimum wage it was n/u pay. You can check your eligibility on sag.org-if you got paid union wages 3 times you should be eligible. There is a remote chance they missed them-if you still have the pay stubs w/union rates you can present them to prove your eligibility.



Ok, I guess not then. Frowner

The vouchers are yellow. They each have a basic wage rate written 75/10 (i'm guessing that's n/u rate) and the pay stub I have from the third voucher I lost and from a different project has 75/10 too. Frowner
 
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Sean Penn
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Does this mean that all extras will get a SAG voucher?

Feature Film
SAG WAIVER
SAG AND NON-SAG WELCOME
PAY RATE: $200/8 AND OT

Very featured, SAG waiver involved. SAG and NON SAG are welcome to submit
 
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Does this mean that all extras will get a SAG voucher?

Feature Film
SAG WAIVER
SAG AND NON-SAG WELCOME
PAY RATE: $200/8 AND OT

Very featured, SAG waiver involved. SAG and NON SAG are welcome to submit


No, that just means the film has permission from SAG to make a movie. The film can get a waiver, and actors can get a waiver, but they are 2 different things.

Also I would be wary of any movie - not necessarily this one- that advertises giving away waivers. Probably a scam.
 
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Does this mean that all extras will get a SAG voucher?

Feature Film
SAG WAIVER
SAG AND NON-SAG WELCOME
PAY RATE: $200/8 AND OT

Very featured, SAG waiver involved. SAG and NON SAG are welcome to submit Does this mean that all extras will get a SAG voucher?

Hi whiterose,

When you see a breakdown like this - for a SAG film paying $130 (or more) for 8 hours, where there is a SAG waiver involved - YES - that means if you are booked for this spot you get a SAG waiver. Extras can be given SAG waivers to work union and as leafygreens noted, productions can also get SAG waivers for various things, though that is not the case here.

When you are non-union and work a union job you are getting a TAFT-HARTLEY WAIVER to work union for that one day or for that one job (in the case of a principal role).

Good luck to you! Hope you get all three!
 
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Yes-$200/8 is a higher-base union extra work rate-so it probably involves a special ability or unusually difficult work. I would submit if you fit whatever it is they are looking for, but make sure you know exactly what you are working for-moneywise and unionwise.

The breakdown isn't necessarily advertising that they are giving away waivers-just that they are looking for a specific type and that if not enough union fit the description they will consider non-union. Again, research it carefully.
 
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