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Sean Penn |
Every restaurant only wants waiters with experience! How can prove that I can work as a server with only fastfood experience. Shold I apply as a host first?
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Glenn Close |
Speak to the manager, say you desperately need a job, and will be a great waiter. Say that you love the food here too, and that the place is incredible as well. If he says that he isn't hiring, he isn't hiring, but do this with as many restaurants you see. You will eventually get the job.
If you want it, then go after it. Don't settle for less, just because they say they want experience on a paper. ---------------------------------------------------- I'll be watching you. |
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Julia Roberts |
LIE. I promise the restaurant police will not come after you- LOL. Besides, they won't hire you now anyway so if you lie and fall on your ass or they catch you, what's the problem? You are no worse off than you are now. This is NOT like the movies i.e. The Secret of My Success or Cocktail. You are not going to walk in with a great speech about just "getting a chance" etc etc yadda yadda yadda and have the managers fall to their knees, say "what the hell" and hire you over the 3000 people out there WITH experience. The people in LA are freakishly different and cold. They are not moved at all by warm, friendly and passionate personalities. So, either lie or get someone you know to hook you up. Spend the $$$ and bribe someone to help you if you have too. Do NOT play by the rules and think eventually it will happen. I made that mistake. You have to bend the stupid rules and think outside the box. |
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Russell Crowe |
sorry, I usually agree with miss stone, but this time I have to disagree.
Just a little bit about my background - I've worked 1.5 years for a New York Times Three Star rated restaurant where the average bill is around $100 per person. Believe it or not, we do, on rare occasions, hire people who don't have any restaurant experience *IF* they meet the following criteria: 1) They have an excellent work ethic 2) They have a very good attitude 3) They have a very good personality 4) They look good, and are well groomed Of course you're not going to be serving tables for at least six months, but they'll start you as a busser (and in a place like that bussers make more than servers at most other places) and teach you the ropes. Don't lie. It may get you a job, but once they figure it out, you'll get fired quick. Something restaurants lack are people with character. Prove that you're someone they can trust (show up on time, get along with everyone, etc), and they'll go to bat for you. Believe it or not, I did do it "cocktail style." Of course, I got the door slammed in my face about 20 times before someone said yes, but it worked. A few more pieces of advice. Try to apply at corporate restaurants like Applebees, Olive Garden, Red Lobster, etc - most corporate restaurants have a training process in place for new people, and they are usually busier than most privately owned restaurants. If you're lucky, you'll even get a job at a company that has insurance. And don't apply on craigslist. Go knock on doors and ask for an application. Oh and if you've got a friend with a hook up, that's always the best. -edit I see you live in LA. All of my experience in restaurants have been in NYC so maybe it's different over there. But NYC is much more of a culinary center than LA is so I can't imagine it's tougher. |
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Julia Roberts |
20 times, huh? You got lucky- REALLY lucky. |
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Glenn Close |
That's ridiculous, if you lie then you will get the job a lot sooner then you would tell the truth. Nobody is going to ask you "Do you really have experience?' if your prove that you do. The waiter profession isn't rocket science, and they would not fire you if they do find out, since they will see a good worker. They really do not care after you been hired. And if they do find out, highly doubtful, say that you needed a job and that you love the job here. The manager is just going to laugh. Just silly ---------------------------------------------------- I'll be watching you. |
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Russell Crowe |
It's not rocket science, but you develop an intuition for things as you get experience. You're doing a very simple task, but you have to do it with 99.99% precision and a very high degree of efficiency. People who are green stand out like a sore thumb, and YES, I have seen people get called out and fired all the time. The restaurant business has an extremely high turnover rate, and people get fired all the time. But I wouldn't except you to know that because you're sixteen and have probably never held a job in your life. |
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Glenn Close |
Yeah right, I've been working since fifteen as a waitress, so don't make false accusations. You only get fired if you can't do that job, or the restaurant is closing down. I seen a few people get fired before, but it's because they are too slow. If you can't do the job well, because you simply don't put the effort in, then you deserve to be fired for the next person who can do it well. However this is not what I mean, you clearly didn't understand the post, which was saying that lying may be better in a lot of cases. You can prove that you can be a good waiter/waitress. ---- Was this job hard for you? ---------------------------------------------------- I'll be watching you. |
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Russell Crowe |
It's a very different beast in New York. Most places won't even hire you if you're under 18 due to liquor license laws. And people get fired all the time. New York is a different ball game all together.
This is not Kentucky where most restaurants are so desperate for waiters they'll take anyone. Most places ask for a minimum of 2 years experience, and believe me, they'll be able tell with the first few days whether you were lying or not. |
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Glenn Close |
Aha, you are so silly, makes me laugh, I do not live in a small country town where they hired anyone. I don't need to discuss about this anymore though. ---------------------------------------------------- I'll be watching you. |
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Russell Crowe |
sweetheart, with due respect, you're sixteen years old.
I don't mean to offend you, you seem like a nice girl, but you talk like you're in your mid 40s or something. You make me laugh. |
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Sean Penn |
well uh...thanks for the advice. I wont lie because I dotn want to get caught. Ill apply as a hostess or busser amd hopefully move up. Bussers get tips right?
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Julia Roberts |
If you get caught you are no worse off than you are now- which is UNEMPLOYED. Noone will spank you- I promise- LOL. What do you really think they will do to you????  Wake up, man.....  There are no restaurant cops!!!! You gotta bend the rules sometimes in this world. As long as it doesn't hurt anyone, it's okay. If the worst thing you ever do is put a job on your resume that you did not do, you're in pretty good shape. Ever sped in the car? Thought so. What's the difference then? That's breaking the law- this isn't. |
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Sean Penn |
As a restaurant job whore myself, miss stone is right. If you lie, and get caught, you just don't get the job. That's it. Personally, I still find my morals getting in the way, so I don't lie (but I already have a lot of hosting/bussing/serving experience). And I'm sure you know this but don't use this same advice when making your acting resume. |
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Sean Penn |
Im not unemployed at all. I am simply looking for a better job. And I have no intention to lie on my resume.
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