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Glenn Close
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I was recently looking at universities, and I heard of this one. Has anyone have any good experience with it? Or heard good things about it?

It is in New York, but they are highly selective it said, only 20% accepted. I decided that the college route would be the best choice for me, and this appears to be an awesome college. Last semester I went through a dark age of self-discovery, and now I see myself so much clearer... I just felt like I needed to add this lol.


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Glenn Close
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Updated: I need to get into this, it's also part of the University of New York.

Ahh this is going to be tough to break into it now, but now after looking into it more, I understand what I need. lol

So I guess I am heading to New York.


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Tisch has one of the best collegiate programs with regards to acting. A lot of industry people, agents, etc. consider it more prestigious than Yale.
 
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Glenn Close
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Oh I read, I better start planning for it now, so I have... 1.8 years before early decision placement auditions. In that amount of time I should be awesome. Do perfect academically, get roles, get some local recognition somehow.


Exciting when you have your path of life getting clearer by the day.Hmmm....

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(I am not going to be on much guys anymore, but I'll check periodically. I just need to focus on my life, then be addicted here lol)


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Russell Crowe
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I have a friend who got a full theatre scholarship to Tisch. He's not a working actor.

NYU has great industry connections in terms of getting seen, so if you're already good it may work out for you. But as far as the training goes there are better schools that cost less.

The best acting training in the country right now exists in small-group workshops. But do your homework. There are a lot of small group workshops out there that are complete crap.
 
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Glenn Close
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Oh I don't know if I am even good, or bad, but I have time to work on that. Till then I plan to perfect myself for that day I audition. I need to get seen.

I just fell in love with the school the moment I saw it, like fate.


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I did a lot of research on schools over the past year including asking questions here that mostly got ignored so I will tell you what I have found ...

One of the reasons I will not be auditioning for Tisch is that they cost over $200,000 for four years and they DO NOT offer full or even half scholarships. Their other financial aid also sucks and consists mostly of loans so you will almost certainly start out in the biz hamstrung by debt if you don't have rich parents to cover it all. Other things to consider about them are that you have to pick a studio that teaches one acting technique that you will be married to for at least 2 years. After that you can change to another studio that teaches another single technique. They also graduate something like 300 actors a year that are a very mixed bag.

Some other schools you should look at that offer training that is just as good or better than Tisch are Juilliard, North Carolina School of the Arts, Carnegie Mellon, SUNY Purchase, Boston University, University of Minnesota, Mason Gross School of the Arts at Rutgers, Cal Arts, USC and DePaul. Some others that aren't as prestigious but worth looking at are Southern Methodist, CCM Drama, Otterbein, Ithaca, Syracuse, Emerson, University of the Arts, University of Evansville and University of Arizona.

All that being said, the BEST training you can get in the US takes place on the graduate level although a big problem with that if you want to do film is that you will be at least 25 by the time you finish and try to start out in the biz. However, the best training in the WORLD takes place in the UK which is why The Royal Scottish Academy of Music and Drama is my first choice if I get lucky enough to be accepted when I fly to Chicago later today to audition for 8 schools in the next 3 days. AHHHHH!!!!

P.S. Something you can do to see where your talent stacks up with other people our age is to go to a good summer training program before your senior year where kids from all over the country will be. Some good ones I know about are at North Carolina School of the Arts, Carnegie Mellon, Boston University and Rutgers.
 
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Russell Crowe
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Originally posted by gyokoren:

All that being said, the BEST training you can get in the US takes place on the graduate level although a big problem with that if you want to do film is that you will be at least 25 by the time you finish and try to start out in the biz. However, the best training in the WORLD takes place in the UK which is why The Royal Scottish Academy of Music and Drama is my first choice if I get lucky enough to be accepted when I fly to Chicago later today to audition for 8 schools in the next 3 days. AHHHHH!!!!


You are completely wrong. The best training in the US is most certainly not at the graduate level. Like I said, it exists in small group workshops. I know many people who have been to these schools and will disagree with you. And regardless, like you said, you'll be 25 when you get done, and the earlier you start out in show biz the better.
 
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Sean Penn
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life at NYU is amazing and you won't regret it. its right in Manhattan, great connections, wonderful reputation it has, and accessibility to everything NY has to offer. The hardest thing to come to grips with is the amount of money it costs to attend. Besides that, its the opportunity of a lifetime. If you get accepted, I say go for it, especially because you have done research and love it already!

look at the list of successful entertainers and award winners who went to Tisch...Angelina Jolie, Haley Joel Osment, Spike Lee, Selma Blair, Adam Sandler, Alec Baldwin, Wayne Federman...the list is long!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_New_York_University_people
 
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Glenn Close
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Originally posted by gyokoren:
I did a lot of research on schools over the past year including asking questions here that mostly got ignored so I will tell you what I have found ...

One of the reasons I will not be auditioning for Tisch is that they cost over $200,000 for four years and they DO NOT offer full or even half scholarships. Their other financial aid also sucks and consists mostly of loans so you will almost certainly start out in the biz hamstrung by debt if you don't have rich parents to cover it all. Other things to consider about them are that you have to pick a studio that teaches one acting technique that you will be married to for at least 2 years. After that you can change to another studio that teaches another single technique. They also graduate something like 300 actors a year that are a very mixed bag.

Some other schools you should look at that offer training that is just as good or better than Tisch are Juilliard, North Carolina School of the Arts, Carnegie Mellon, SUNY Purchase, Boston University, University of Minnesota, Mason Gross School of the Arts at Rutgers, Cal Arts, USC and DePaul. Some others that aren't as prestigious but worth looking at are Southern Methodist, CCM Drama, Otterbein, Ithaca, Syracuse, Emerson, University of the Arts, University of Evansville and University of Arizona.

All that being said, the BEST training you can get in the US takes place on the graduate level although a big problem with that if you want to do film is that you will be at least 25 by the time you finish and try to start out in the biz. However, the best training in the WORLD takes place in the UK which is why The Royal Scottish Academy of Music and Drama is my first choice if I get lucky enough to be accepted when I fly to Chicago later today to audition for 8 schools in the next 3 days. AHHHHH!!!!

P.S. Something you can do to see where your talent stacks up with other people our age is to go to a good summer training program before your senior year where kids from all over the country will be. Some good ones I know about are at North Carolina School of the Arts, Carnegie Mellon, Boston University and Rutgers.


I actually look into Boston, and I do not think Julliard is for me at all, they are more for music and dancing. I saw the tuition price for Tisch, and it is expensive, since my parents aren't going to pay anything for college (I don't expect them too), but I was hoping to get a scholarship to pay it off and a job.

I'll look into the other ones you mention, I just need something prestigious and worthy of my time. But there was something about Tisch that I fell in love with, and I can't put my finger on it.

I don't have time at all for graduate school, and I do not think it like extremely necessary unless I want to become a teacher (which I don't want too) If I wanted to do that I would become a doctor instead in an instance for wasting all my youth in training. Youth is the best time to get out in show biz. If you can act, then you can act. Four years should be enough, even two years at a reg conservatory. Sometimes even none (have to be excellent to begin with). 8 years is like saying "I want to become an acting teacher"

-- yeah I'll look at those schools for back up plans if I am not accepted at Tisch (not the ones that aren't prestigious)


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Glenn Close
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Originally posted by Oh_hai_thair:
I have a friend who got a full theatre scholarship to Tisch. He's not a working actor.

NYU has great industry connections in terms of getting seen, so if you're already good it may work out for you. But as far as the training goes there are better schools that cost less.

The best acting training in the country right now exists in small-group workshops. But do your homework. There are a lot of small group workshops out there that are complete crap.


Oh if you can contact your friend, in case you're like still good friends, could you ask him a few questions about Tisch. How he got in, he enjoy it, it was worth it, ect. That would mean a lot if you could send the answers here.

Thanks
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Glenn Close
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Originally posted by GlamGoddessMom:
life at NYU is amazing and you won't regret it. its right in Manhattan, great connections, wonderful reputation it has, and accessibility to everything NY has to offer. The hardest thing to come to grips with is the amount of money it costs to attend. Besides that, its the opportunity of a lifetime. If you get accepted, I say go for it, especially because you have done research and love it already!

look at the list of successful entertainers and award winners who went to Tisch...Angelina Jolie, Haley Joel Osment, Spike Lee, Selma Blair, Adam Sandler, Alec Baldwin, Wayne Federman...the list is long!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_New_York_University_people


You know what's weird it's like I know I am going to get accepted already, it's intuition, and I am weird about that. I don't know if others feel like this, but if I have a hunch this is it, then it usually is. I did all the research last night, and it was the first university I fell in love with. I spent like four hours last night finding everything about it. I did my college research before, so it's not like it's the first one I saw. It like gave me purpose to my life all over again, since before I was depress (for eight months), and now I feel happy about my life (and it's been like this longer than an hour *like movie can do*; like 16 hours).

It wasn't even the alumni that attracted me to it, that is major plus after I found out, it was more of the place itself. The art, culture, life of it.


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Don't go there unless you get a Fine Arts degree in something -- BFA or MFA.

And I think the most sophisticated branch of NYU Tisch is the ETW. Of course, I would say that...because I'm friends with so many of the faculty. But that's because they are MODERN and brilliant.

That can't be said for all the studios there...

- Jason
 
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Glenn Close
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I am planning to get a degree, it be silly to just go there and leave and waste tons of money.

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I said a FINE ARTS degree. Smiler
 
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Okay I was aiming for a BFA, specializing in acting


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I'm just putting in my two cents as a current high school senior who has just finished the whole applying thing and am in the midst of auditions. Please explore further beyond just Tisch. While NYUs program IS very prestigious, in my opinion, there are better schools out there. Like another person said, if you are already incredibly talented, then yes, you'll be successfull after NYU, but, imho, NYU admits too many students in their arts programs and there is not enough personal attention to develope a well trained artist as compared to other schools. I am not saying they arent a great program, because they absolutly are, but there are other schools that are better. Further, everyone in the world wants to go to NYU for acting. and everyone, just like you, thinks they are going to get in, that "intuition" as you call it. More than likely, it isnt going to happen. Sorry to burst your bubble. I'm just trying to show you some reality because you appear not to know much about college and theater. Especially if you say "Oh I don't know if I am even good, or bad, but I have time to work on that." If you aren't aware of the caliber of performer you are, then chances are you don't have the experience to get into NYU. If you aren't training seriously right now and you aren't frequently getting great roles on your resume, it is doubtful that you have what it takes. Further, you seem to be very uneducated in regards to how this all works, and you don't sound like you know much about getting in to college at all, especially BFA conservatory programs. Plus, I noticed that you seem to have awful grammar. Academics are still important, especially at NYU. They won't let you in with out very competitive academic achievement. I apologize if I come out as rude, i'm just being realistic.
 
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Oh I don't know if I am even good, or bad, but I have time to work on that. Till then I plan to perfect myself for that day I audition. I need to get seen.

I just fell in love with the school the moment I saw it, like fate.


What kind of productions/roles have your worked on so far?
 
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Glenn Close
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I'm just putting in my two cents as a current high school senior who has just finished the whole applying thing and am in the midst of auditions. Please explore further beyond just Tisch. While NYUs program IS very prestigious, in my opinion, there are better schools out there. Like another person said, if you are already incredibly talented, then yes, you'll be successfull after NYU, but, imho, NYU admits too many students in their arts programs and there is not enough personal attention to develope a well trained artist as compared to other schools. I am not saying they arent a great program, because they absolutly are, but there are other schools that are better. Further, everyone in the world wants to go to NYU for acting. and everyone, just like you, thinks they are going to get in, that "intuition" as you call it. More than likely, it isnt going to happen. Sorry to burst your bubble. I'm just trying to show you some reality because you appear not to know much about college and theater. Especially if you say "Oh I don't know if I am even good, or bad, but I have time to work on that." If you aren't aware of the caliber of performer you are, then chances are you don't have the experience to get into NYU. If you aren't training seriously right now and you aren't frequently getting great roles on your resume, it is doubtful that you have what it takes. Further, you seem to be very uneducated in regards to how this all works, and you don't sound like you know much about getting in to college at all, especially BFA conservatory programs. Plus, I noticed that you seem to have awful grammar. Academics are still important, especially at NYU. They won't let you in with out very competitive academic achievement. I apologize if I come out as rude, i'm just being realistic.


I’ll only take about 50% of what you said in consideration, the rest I will ignore. Apparently, you know my academic background, I have a 3.8 gpa, and in matter of that I will probably stay around at that level. I am still a sophomore in high school, but I have an idea, and in two years time I suppose I will be at that “level” with training at my school (which is consider really greaT). If you are thinking I am setting myself for failure then you guess wrongly. And if you were trying to get accepted to Tisch, which I am assuming, and rejected then that is not my issue to deal with. I have an intuition that, which sounds strangely, is usually correct (but it does not matter on that factor). I am extremely realistic and that is why I am going to rigorously improve myself before it is too late, and chances of me being accepted somewhat low. But once again it is me, and not anyone else, and being me puts me at that level one step higher. You do not know who I am and where I came from, and what I look like or how talented I am. I am not going to brag how special I am, since it be useless on a forum, but I am so that is what all that matters. I am realistic so I upgrade my chances so I can win it, not dream useless dreams and not act on them, and still think I am going to achieve. Right now is this year for me, I will get that much better, I will audition for this place, and I will have that chance to get in. I keyword chance, because it means I have the ability to get in, but too many applicants. I do not live in New York, but I am willing to drive there and audition there in a heartbeat when the early decisions are around for my graduating class. I need to put myself in a place where I can market myself as soon as possible, and I love the place regardless. Therefore, I am going to try to get in, and I will have at least a few great roles under my resume. And if I do not get in, it will not be because I wasn’t good enough for it or I didn’t try hard enough for it. It will only because they had too many other people to decide, so I wasn’t lucky on that part. But then trying as hard as I did I will get into another place just as good, and not lower myself to “inferior” universities. I am willing even if I did not receive the financial aid, which I will need, to pay it all off on my own financial abilities. That is how much I want this school, and only this school. I will sacrifice day and night working in New York, without much social life, to pay this tuition off.

You only had a couple good points such as getting roles under names, but I research this school well enough to know I am capable of this school. I am not blinded by the fact that this school is tough to get into, since if you read other posts by me you would know that I am practical and realistic. I know what can get in and what cannot, but I did not ask you what my chances were? Did I? I do not think so. I believe all I ask on this forum if anyone else has more information.

Next time do not assume anyone chance into achieving his or her dreams, since you do not know their personal fate, and you are not a crystal ball. The only person who can decide their own fate is himself or herself, and with enough power into their dream, they can have the chance to achieve it I believe! It will take time, and hard work, but anyone can at least have the chance to achieve it.


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^ It is actually one of the easier admits if you have the grades and test scores. The other good ones I mentioned only let in between 2 and 5% and around 2/3 of the kids auditioning will be girls. 20% really isn't all that bad when you consider that probably more than half the kids auditioning will be trying to get in the CAP21 musical theatre studio and a lot will be trying when they clearly don't have the grades.

You really should ask the older actors on here about the wisdom of taking on huge amounts of debt before you start and LISTEN to what they tell you, but it's your life ...

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Oh_hai_thair said: You are completely wrong. The best training in the US is most certainly not at the graduate level. Like I said, it exists in small group workshops. I know many people who have been to these schools and will disagree with you. And regardless, like you said, you'll be 25 when you get done, and the earlier you start out in show biz the better.
The directors and artistic directors with whom I corresponded when I came to that conclusion would most definitely say YOU are completely wrong. To a person, they recommended getting a well rounded liberal arts education and then getting a Masters in acting. Moreover, some of them were vehemently anti-BFA on the grounds that they believe 18 is too young to truly absorb intensive training and that the BFAs with whom they had worked were usually too poorly educated to have more than a very shallow grasp of the context of the work. I must be crazy going for a BFA after some of the things they said, but I am ... Hellz yes I am ... Accepted by a good one yesterday on. the. spot. yesssssss Smiler

I don't know about these small group workshops you keep talking about and I really want to believe you but you will first have to show me actors who got their primary training at those places playing the pivotal roles of classic theatre eight times a week on Broadway and places like the Goodman, Guthrie and South Coast Rep without getting skewered by the critics. The best actors can do that and then turn around to shoot a guest spot on a TV series and move on to a film when the run of the play is over. The people I have seen doing it either got their training in the UK or have MFAs from places like ACT and Yale. What are the part time studios around New York and LA that would even remotely prepare someone for that?
 
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