I received an email for commercial representation from an intern there, but I'm not sure if I should reply because of all the bad stuff that has been said about him. Should I contact them?
Posts: 10 | Location: Los Angeles Area | Registered: November 10, 2007
The letter was very generic and not personalized. Almost everyone on Casting Networks in LA (LA Casting) got the same letter. IMO it shows lack of professionalism. There is a more detailed discussion on the www.showfax.com message board.
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Posts: 1146 | Location: SoCal | Registered: July 13, 2005
look...i'm new at this but, in my opinion, what's the worst that can happen?...go meet, see what's the deal...if he tries to make you sign up for expensive classes or headshots, just say NO and leave
Posts: 3 | Location: LA | Registered: January 05, 2008
Here's a solid, honest take on the interview process of THE MICHAEL ZANUCK <agency?>. I've been in this business as an actor since I was 5. Worked consistantly in TV and movies for 20+ years. And had a good reputation. Took some time off to raise a family and now I'm back. I was contacted "personaly" by MZ to come by for a talk. I guess they found me on IMDB or something. So okay, I wasn't working on anything that day, so I figured I would see what kind of operation they had going and what THEY could do for ME, since I had some time before I was to hear from 2 other agencies I met with that week. I looked MZ up online and saw this board. In short- I got there 20 minutes early and people were going in and out of that office every 5 minutes! It was like a cattle call of GED grads and various other characters. I met with some lady who looked annoyed and acted like some tore up disgruntled Apple-One employee, who quickly and efficiently shuffled me through to get to the next appointment without even asking me one single relevant question. It didn't matter that I had a MASSIVE resume and have 30 years in 3 guilds, etc. After literaly 4 minutes or so in a tiny little copy room sized office I was told, "If Michael wants to speak with you, we will call you tomorrow." HUH?! Did I miss something? She was kidding right? He wanted to talk to me, right? "YOU are the executive committee?" I asked. I don't know if she was tired, high or just didn't care that day. But she pretended not to hear me. And no. Thank G-d, I was not called. It saved me the effort of saying "No thank you to Michael." Which was MORE than fine with me. Who needs to burn a bridge in this town. Even if it is the bridge from the Universal Studios ride. I was contacted by Endeavor a day later for a 2nd sit down. And I signed a 3 year with them faster than a California home goes into Foreclosure! So. 3 weeks later after remembering this board posting. I HAD to tell my tale. Michael. I'm sure you are a good guy. People are working in your agency. In the numbers game, everyone gets lucky. But you should read these boards more and surround yourself with big picture people. Until then, there will be more people annoyed with you wasting their time shlepping out to-- Agoura Hills! The entertainment capitol of, that area overlooking the freeway between Westlake and Calabassas? ahhh. I hope someone reads this and compares this to their own. Enjoy. Learn and most of all--- be patient.
Posts: 4 | Location: Northridge | Registered: September 24, 2008
Yo Bateman, welcome back into the fray and congrats on signing with Endeavor. I'll be expecting to see big, fun things from you. Ha ha you should have your new rep's secretary call over to Zanuck to "make sure' they don't want to sign you.
Posts: 182 | Location: Hollywood, CA | Registered: April 15, 2008
The fact that he has you do 5 character shots is scammy enough! You don't take character shots unless you're going to make a zed card for commercial print or doing extra work. NEVER for legitimate acting!
I looked at his official website and he lists all these people who have booked major roles. One of them is Vivica A. Fox who is NOT represented by him. There are several other people listed who are with much better agencies and NOT his. What a liar!
Posts: 1595 | Location: LA, CA | Registered: September 18, 2008
I just wanted to give a shout out to PBateman and thank him for taking the time to write such a detailed post. I found it depressing and amusing at the same time...
Well I haven't really written anything on these forums before but I figured since I read them all the time I would register and give my two cents since I had some loose change on the subject.
I got contacted by the same "lull after the strike" that everyone else prolly got. I decided to send out a print since i was doing mailings anyways. I got a call back from a woman named Catherine. We set up a meeting time for a Wednesday and I left it at that.
I decided it would be smart to do a little research on them so I went to various boards (some from here) and read how everyone else's initial experiences were. Went in for the meeting and like watching a movie you've read the book on, I could already see what people were writing about.
Although I read that people were popping in by the flock every few min, I did not see anyone else in the area (I didn't arrive too early though, only 10-15 min). I walked in and saw the legendary posting stating that it was flu season and warm hellos and friendly goodbyes were expressed through waves. I filled out the forms and saw the date of last photo shoot section as well. In the background I could hear Michael Zanuck on the phone making calls for his clients I presume.
After I was finished I was greeted by Catherine and brought to her office. She proceeded to look at my h/r and mentioned I needed commercial classes. After that, she looked at the pictures I had brought in (about 15ish) and mentioned that all of these were theatrical and could not be used, not to mention that they were garbage. Interestingly enough I had chosen the only good pic from the entire batch for my headshot she said, but it needed to be tighter so when she submits online it stands out since it will be shrunk. I was then handed a piece of paper that thanked me for interviewing with them, to email them for a possible 2nd meeting, and not to call.
As long as it took you to read that last paragraph was as long as the meeting took. Now my take on the meeting. Everyone almost can always use better headshots and my experience in commercials is null so classes would be in order, plus I think every actor should polish his skills constantly. Being that I didn't pursue the second interview I cant tell you how it goes the 2nd time around, but I personally didn't get a good vibe. I'm sure they are a good agency for some people or they wouldn't still be around, but I personally had to pass. I truly believe anyone that is questioning signing read up on everything you can read, interview, and think it through with whatever information you've gathered whether it be from message boards, friends in the industry, or your own personal experience. It's ultimately up to you, its your career and for all you know, they could be great for you. Sorry if this was a bit much to read btw.
Posts: 2 | Location: Valencia, CA | Registered: October 29, 2008
I am currently looking for commercial representation and received the poorly-written email, too. MZA got my info from LA Casting. I thought that perhaps an intern had written the sad, sad email and decided - what the heck - why not give MZA a try? I have a friend who is repped by MZA and is more than happy there.
I drove the nearly 70 miles (one-way) to the office and met with Katherine Spencer (this is the correct spelling of her name). I really liked her and got good vibes. She said that my picture was good, but that my head didn't take up enough space on the page. When I told her it was digital and I could crop it, she didn't seem to care. She said that "an agent" would be a better judge. We talked about how the agent/actor relationship is collaboration. It was a short meeting, but it felt productive.
Katherine asked me if I could come back in 2 days to meet with "the agent". I was told that I would need to send an email stating, "I will accept COMMERCIAL representation if offered," in order to be granted a second interview. Again, why not?
Two days later… Upon entering the office I noticed a piece of paper with the following written on it: "We will not be shaking hands today. When you enter the office close the door behind you. Please sit in the green chair closest to the window. Do not move chair closer to the power agent. You may swivel in your chair. When you leave the office leave to door open behind you."
Okay...
Michael came into the lobby to make sure I had read - and understood - the rules. He followed me into the office and politely pointed out the green chair closest to the window, just in case I had forgotten the rules.
He said he thinks I have a good commercial look and he wanted to help me get "good" head shots. Just then, his cell phone rang. It had to be the loudest ring tone I've ever heard. He checked the caller ID and answered it…in mid-sentence with me. The conversation that, then, occurred seemed very rehearsed.
When the phone nonsense was over we talked about me a little bit – by we, I mean he talked and I listened. There was a sheet of paper stapled to my headshot…through my head. We talked about how I hadn’t taken a commercial acting class in quite some time and he pulled out another sheet of paper that contained a list of “recommended” acting classes.
Then Michael asked if I had done any union work. I have not. He said he knew a guy that could help me with my “non-union problem”. That’s right, for a substantial fee this guy would get me onto some sets as a union extra. He gave me his phone number.
I checked out of the meeting at this point.
Next we talked about my photos. Again, he talked and I listened. I needed 6-7 different types of headshots. He, then, magically produced – you guessed it - a sheet of paper with a list of photographers. Michael strongly suggested that I not stray from this list (of photographers I’ve never heard of) because, they he is assured consistency from these precious few photographers. I was advised to peruse all of the photographers’ websites to get ideas – even if I decided to go with the first or second person on the list. Of course, all of my classes and head shots should be completed before the first of the year so that I could be pounding the pavement in January. Then, it was over.
I stood up, didn’t shake hands, and left. That was it.
As I drove home I began to wonder…does he really expect for me to invest in new head shots tailored to his specific standards without a contract in hand?
I decided that I would not. I agree with the types of photos he wants me to get, but when I actually do sign with an agent, I want to have photos that he/she believes in. New headshots are not an investment I want to make every few months.
My feeling is…if he likes you – and you can deal with his personality style – you could do very well with MZA (as my friend does).
I, on the other hand, don’t deal well with the unethical types.
Posts: 2 | Location: Greater Los Angeles | Registered: December 19, 2008
Great testimonial. MZA reeks of scam o'rama! You DON'T need 6-7 specific looks. You need at most 4 general looks. That's retarded how they make you have two meetings, especially when they know that the majority of actors DON'T live all the way up Agoura Hills.
Posts: 1595 | Location: LA, CA | Registered: September 18, 2008
Originally posted by Crazy Nut: I am currently looking for commercial representation and received the poorly-written email, too. MZA got my info from LA Casting. I thought that perhaps an intern had written the sad, sad email and decided - what the heck - why not give MZA a try? I have a friend who is repped by MZA and is more than happy there.
I drove the nearly 70 miles (one-way) to the office and met with Katherine Spencer (this is the correct spelling of her name). I really liked her and got good vibes. She said that my picture was good, but that my head didn't take up enough space on the page. When I told her it was digital and I could crop it, she didn't seem to care. She said that "an agent" would be a better judge. We talked about how the agent/actor relationship is collaboration. It was a short meeting, but it felt productive.
Katherine asked me if I could come back in 2 days to meet with "the agent". I was told that I would need to send an email stating, "I will accept COMMERCIAL representation if offered," in order to be granted a second interview. Again, why not?
Two days later… Upon entering the office I noticed a piece of paper with the following written on it: "We will not be shaking hands today. When you enter the office close the door behind you. Please sit in the green chair closest to the window. Do not move chair closer to the power agent. You may swivel in your chair. When you leave the office leave to door open behind you."
Okay...
Michael came into the lobby to make sure I had read - and understood - the rules. He followed me into the office and politely pointed out the green chair closest to the window, just in case I had forgotten the rules.
He said he thinks I have a good commercial look and he wanted to help me get "good" head shots. Just then, his cell phone rang. It had to be the loudest ring tone I've ever heard. He checked the caller ID and answered it…in mid-sentence with me. The conversation that, then, occurred seemed very rehearsed.
When the phone nonsense was over we talked about me a little bit – by we, I mean he talked and I listened. There was a sheet of paper stapled to my headshot…through my head. We talked about how I hadn’t taken a commercial acting class in quite some time and he pulled out another sheet of paper that contained a list of “recommended” acting classes.
Then Michael asked if I had done any union work. I have not. He said he knew a guy that could help me with my “non-union problem”. That’s right, for a substantial fee this guy would get me onto some sets as a union extra. He gave me his phone number.
I checked out of the meeting at this point.
Next we talked about my photos. Again, he talked and I listened. I needed 6-7 different types of headshots. He, then, magically produced – you guessed it - a sheet of paper with a list of photographers. Michael strongly suggested that I not stray from this list (of photographers I’ve never heard of) because, they he is assured consistency from these precious few photographers. I was advised to peruse all of the photographers’ websites to get ideas – even if I decided to go with the first or second person on the list. Of course, all of my classes and head shots should be completed before the first of the year so that I could be pounding the pavement in January. Then, it was over.
I stood up, didn’t shake hands, and left. That was it.
As I drove home I began to wonder…does he really expect for me to invest in new head shots tailored to his specific standards without a contract in hand?
I decided that I would not. I agree with the types of photos he wants me to get, but when I actually do sign with an agent, I want to have photos that he/she believes in. New headshots are not an investment I want to make every few months.
My feeling is…if he likes you – and you can deal with his personality style – you could do very well with MZA (as my friend does).
I, on the other hand, don’t deal well with the unethical types.
Very funny post- hahaha."Power agent"? Tell me it didn't really say that on a sign- no WAY.
Posts: 2390 | Location: the universe | Registered: June 04, 2007