Originally posted by Mystique: ^^ There's a difference between honesty and mockery.
Miley Cyrus is too young to really say anyways... she might turn out the definition of actress for the early part of this century. What she's doing now is teen comedy, and it isn't really 'art' yet.
Then again she could just end up being nothing special, except child star gone wild gone nowhere. Then she just be another spot on Wikipedia, taking space up.
Damn, I left off Jenna Jameson, too. This is too tough. She was great in "Ass Play Aces"
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I just realized how many great actors that I left out of my list.
I didn't include Brando (total brain fart, sorry Marlon), James Dean, Sean Penn, DiNiro, Dench, O'Toole, Pacino, Lee Strasberg, Spencer Tracy, Hepburn, Lee J. Cobb, Portier, Fonda, Bette Davis, Bancroft... even Michael Caine will be counted among our finest screen actors.
The list of memorable, supremely talented actors living and dead is just impossible to include in such a small sampling.
It's far easier to list the ones who definitely WON'T be making the cut...
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I met him on the set of Spielberg's "Sea Quest," and he was a delightful man.
He had just returned from two weeks in Florida with his wife, and spoke about how swimming with the dolphins "changed his life."
I'm glad you mentioned him. An underrated actor and a remarkable man.
I worked with Nick Cage on "Honeymoon In Vegas," and once again, a great guy. A photographic memory, not a hint of "star attitude," and a good actor, in spite of nepotism. But even on his best day he couldn't even twirl Scheider's keys. He's simply not on that level.
As far as Frank goes... remember the horse head scene from "The Godfather"? Without Sam Giancana, Sinatra wouldn't have even had a screen career.
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This is the second time in a row that Nicolas Cage's name has come up as the Top 5 Actors Of All Time.
Just curious. He did win the Oscar for "Leaving Las Vegas" (a marginal film at best that was forgotten as quickly as it won), but he's primarily an action-adventure film star with a smattering of quirky/funny films thrown in. To qualify for this list, I think it requires a resume of great films that not only stand the test of time, but show a depth of roles and artistry that cries out for this honor. I don't believe that just making a lot of money at the box office equals greatness, anymore than Arnold Schwarzenegger's payday for "The Terminator" franchise made him rich and famous.
Why do you think Coppola should be considered among these other stage and screen icons, and for what films?
[You can add Julia Roberts in your answer, as well]
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Originally posted by Robert Kim Photography: This is the second time in a row that Nicolas Cage's name has come up as the Top 5 Actors Of All Time.
Just curious. He did win the Oscar for "Leaving Las Vegas" (a marginal film at best that was forgotten as quickly as it won), but he's primarily an action-adventure film star with a smattering of quirky/funny films thrown in. To qualify for this list, I think it requires a resume of great films that not only stand the test of time, but show a depth of roles and artistry that cries out for this honor. I don't believe that just making a lot of money at the box office equals greatness, anymore than Arnold Schwarzenegger's payday for "The Terminator" franchise made him rich and famous.
Why do you think Coppola should be considered among these other stage and screen icons, and for what films?
Well hes not in my top 5 of all time, but I certainly wouldnt deny that hes a great actor.
I really liked him in Matchstick Men, Face Off as well as in Leaving Las Vegas. If i had to pick a favorite it would be Adaptation.
Just saw your edit =)
As far as Julia Roberts, granted shes mostly known for cheesy chick flicks which i think way over shadow her performances in roles like The Mexican,Mona Lisa Smile,Erin Brockovich,the one wih Denzel Washington(cant rememver the name). I think i heard she did some off brodway as well im not sure.
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Top 5 Actors of all time is a toughie - maybe subtitled with the ones that are exciting, take chances and you're always thinking "my god I want to watch him/her act!"
1) Robert Downey Jr. 2) Nicholas Cage (nuance and quirk is his middle name, he only recently has done the action genre) 3) Morgan Freeman 4) 5)
Top 5 Actresses of all Time
1) Jennifer Jason Leigh 2) Meryl Streep 3) Glenn Close 4) Cate Blanchett 5)
I'll have to get back to you on the rest.
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Originally posted by dannysnightout: I really liked him [Nicolas Cage] in Matchstick Men, Face Off as well as in Leaving Las Vegas. If i had to pick a favorite it would be Adaptation. As far as Julia Roberts, granted shes mostly known for cheesy chick flicks which i think way over shadow her performances in roles like The Mexican,Mona Lisa Smile,Erin Brockovich,the one wih Denzel Washington(cant rememver the name). I think i heard she did some off brodway as well im not sure.
I think we should start another thread called, "Top 5 Movie Stars Of All Time."
There's a big difference between 'movie stars' and "great actors."
Marilyn Monroe and Rock Hudson were big movie stars. Marcia Gay Hardin and Robert Duvall and are great actors.
Did you read the critique of Julia Roberts' star turn in her Broadway show awhile back? She was universally panned. The critic from the New York Times called her stage acting, "having the emotional depth of a lamppost." 'Nuff said?
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Originally posted by dannysnightout: I really liked him [Nicolas Cage] in Matchstick Men, Face Off as well as in Leaving Las Vegas. If i had to pick a favorite it would be Adaptation. As far as Julia Roberts, granted shes mostly known for cheesy chick flicks which i think way over shadow her performances in roles like The Mexican,Mona Lisa Smile,Erin Brockovich,the one wih Denzel Washington(cant rememver the name). I think i heard she did some off brodway as well im not sure.
I think we should start another thread called, "Top 5 Movie Stars Of All Time."
There's a big difference between 'movie stars' and "great actors."
Marilyn Monroe and Rock Hudson were big movie stars. Marcia Gay Hardin and Robert Duvall and are great actors.
Did you read the critique of Julia Roberts' star turn in her Broadway show awhile back? She was universally panned. The critic from the New York Times called her stage acting, "having the emotional depth of a lamppost." 'Nuff said?
LOL ok point taken about Julia.=)
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Marilyn Monroe is nothing but a needy trailer trash woman in a million dollar dress. If she could not perform professionally on set, as they say she did not, and treat her career with respect then I see nothing of great value to me. The only reason why she became famous was because she had ideal beauty for the times, tons of sex appeal, luck, and average acting ability. She should had went on hiatus after the "The Misfits", and come back in 1964 refresh and new energy for her career, rather than take that last film "Something got to give", and something had too- her. In 1963 she should had went to a psychologist and a therapist to help with her childhood issues, need for attention, low self-esteem and she is lacking self esteem because after being portray as a dumb blonde that went to her head. Unlike Paris Hilton, who is doing it as a marketing tool, she never really went out to play the dumb blonde, but rather society saw her one. Why didn't she prove her family she is more than just a dumb trailer trash woman, after all the money and fame she just let it all come to a tragic end. I am not sure if she commited suicide, or someone killed her, but I think that everything had something to her mental state at the time.
If I was Marilyn Monroe, I would had come out and dyed my hair black and grew it straight and long, and then ask Vogue to place me on their cover, "NEW MARILYN MONROE! LOOK OF THE 60'S!". I would had put a big headband, with huge diva gold earrings, and a polkydot orange dress, with big thigh high white boots. She could had directed it to a new level of sophistication, and end the typecast, went on and get some serious acting roles. She could totally control the two decades.
Twiggy came at the right time, and everything, if Marilyn Monroe had control of the 1960's then Twiggy wouldn't be as a huge of supermodel. She would still be huge, but not as big, and it is because of Twiggy that the anorexic thin look first initiated.
Wow, this sounded a little psychotic and jealous.
I would say the same thing for Lindsay Lohan, she needs to get her life in control, and come out refresh or she is off my first list. There's a difference between being a mess, and being a mess for marketing. Being a mess for publicity is like being an average party girl, some cool public acts that will get the tabloids on, but if you take that to your career that draws the line. It's costing her all the success that her early films had gave her, like "Mean Girls".
Someday a role that might cause her super stardom once again might be given to another girl, since finding another Lohan type is not hard. Look at Megan Fox for example, in Drama Queen she was practically a nobody in comparison to Lohan. Now, Megan Fox is consider today's sex symbol, and has more star power than Lohan will ever hope to have again unless she gets her act together. If I was Lohan I would be so embarrass that somebody that wasn't even my competitor but mere co-star rise to the top, and I'm losing it all, and Megan even a year older! There's going to be day when the right role that's going to put her on the map again is going to be given to another girl, and that girl is going to laugh and say, "Oh they first consider Lohan for this, but she wasn't reliable, so I had a call and look at where I am now!". Lohan two weeks later is selling her mansion, and drunk on the streets at some hotel with Juan Pablo, a Mexican dude that gives good tequila to her. "Cushy cushy mi chiquita, tu es bonita! Mi chica, mi amor! They be crazy of juu, don't worry about what those putas think of you. You es number 1", after he gives her another shot and falling for his words.
Lohan should had released her second album, and I was actually hyped for it, "Spirit in the Dark", but no she said "I'm too busy". That's such a bad excuse, since this is the time she needs to be busy, I would be up all night releasing that album, getting myself looking my best, getting the right roles, and hoping for 2010 would be my year to take control of the next decade, and make myself a legend. That was such a crazy act, since she is costing her recording label big bucks to get those producers to work on her album, she had some songs created too, but she just doesn't want to do it now. She's giving herself such a bad name, that if I was a recording label, I would never even consider Lindsay. She's not bringing in the bucks (none at all for costing me big bucks).