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Denzel Washington
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Who will win in a battle / or who is tougher than the other?

MICHAEL CORLEONE (The Godfather)Al Pacino
TONY MONTANA (Scarface)Al Pacino
FRANK WHITE (King of New York)Christopher Walken
NINO BROWN (New Jack City)Wesley Snipes
LITTLE CAESAR-James Cagney
CARLITO BRIGANTE (Carlito's Way) Al Pacino
TOMMY (Goodfellas) Joe Pesci
 
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Agreed. Nobody can top Tommy in Goodfellas. Shooting a kid in the foot because he forgot his drink and then shooting him in the stomach repeatedly because he told him off over it is priceless.

One question though, how did Bogart not make your list or DeNiro's Al Capone?
 
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Denzel Washington
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OH, I TOTALLY FORGOT ABOUT THEM TWO. Here's who I think is the toughest.

Michael Corleone was smart but had too much compasion and demons for him to be the toughest, besides he had his hitman do all the dirty work. The death of Fredo tore him up so he's out.

Tony Montana was too tempermental to control anything. Tommy was also tempermental but wasn't smart. Carlito was just a big softee, Nino Brown was dangerous but didn't want to get his hands dirty so he used his brother and friends to do it for him, then like a bitch, snitched his whole crew out. Little Caesar was also tempormental. DeNiro's Capone hardly did anything-it was Nitti who killed everybody.

The best in my opinion is FRANK WHITE. Why? because not only he was a true gangster, he was a ghost. He appeared to be the good guy by supporting the poor while killing drug dealers who didn't agree with him and he did it HIMSELF-he didn't really need Jimmy Jump (Laurence Fishburne) at all. And what italian gangster has a all black crew?-He was the man that's why the Notorious BIG used him a lot on his songs.

What gangster could go to a cop's funeral to KILL ANOTHER COP HIMSELF and escapes like a ghost? and was cool about it. "I must be getting old because I feel no remorse. My remorse is dead".

GANGSTA
 
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Julia Roberts
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Like not being able to stop and ask for directions, I chalk up men's obsession/fascination with gangsters as one of "those things" that reside in the male chromosome......Smiler)
 
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Denzel Washington
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LOL

You look attractive in your pic.
 
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Yanno, I think you're right about that too. I used to know this girl who was obsessed with Lucky Luciano and she was kind of more manly than the average girl (she was covered in hair first of all, very Chewbacca) and she was a very throw-wrist-across-forehead-and-strike-sorrowful-pose woe is me kind of goth girl. I used to have nightmares that she was going to eat me. I don't suspect she'd stop and for directions either...she's probably use her esp or something.
 
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Who will win? Jake and Elwood Blues, of course.

Remember: "They'll never get caught. They're on a mission from God."

Elwood: It's 106 miles to Chicago, we've got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark and we're wearing sunglasses.
Jake: Hit it.
 
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Denzel Washington
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Excellent Topic. Hmm, toughest gangster character of all time:

Gerte Forbe's Auric Goldfinger: Let's see: First he suffocates his mistress by painting her entire body (head-to-toe) in gold paint; Gasses an entire group of organized crime leaders after they complete a series of business transactions for him; has another gangster shot then crushed in a Lincoln Continental (then has the car returned to him so he retrieve the gold bars he had paid his former associate); And tried to saw Sean Connery (James Bond) in half (balls first) with a laser drill. All that while trying to nuke Fort Knox in order to make the U.S. gold supply radioactive for 50 years and inflating the price of his own gold supply. Now If that's not cold-blooded gangsterism, I don't know what is!

Joe Pesci's Thomas DeSimone was mentioned for GoodFellas, but what about Robert DeNiro, Jimmy "The Gent" Conway (based on James Burke)? He pulled off what is still considered one of the biggest heists in U.S. history, the Lufthansa robbery of 1978, kicking Morty the toupee guy's ass was hilarious.

Laurence Fishbourne, Ellsworth (Bumpy) Johnson in Hoodlum.

Just a few off the top of me head.
 
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Denzel Washington
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Good Point. Although Bumpy was real, he ranked with Michael Corelone.

Jimmy...yeah, he was dirty.
 
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Denzel Washington
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And the thing about Jimmy The Gent: To this day, no one (not NYPD, FBI, Interpol), really knows how much was stolen from the Lufthansa Heist. The numbers have been as low as $1 million (way too low) to as high as $15million (possibly but probably exaggerated). The number most folks seem to agree (and the law enforcement officials and Lufthansa concede) is somewhere between $5.8 & $8million. And here's amazing thing about the heist: Do you know how much of the loot was recovered? Depending on the law enforcement department somewhere between $58,000 - $250,000. Un-friggin'-believable!
 
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Russell Crowe
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Hands down...Tony Montana from Scarface! I love that flick Smiler

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Denzel Washington
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Let me throw two more to the forum. One was a gangster in a comedy who didn't kill anyone in the film, did (however), have a terrific line in the film. The other has not been mentioned yet and to me is quite prominent.

Number One: Dennis Farina as Las Vegas mobster Jimmy Serrano in Midnight Run (1988). Yes I know it was a comedy/action/buddy flick, but he offered up one of the best lines coming out of a movie gangster. After he catches up with Charles Grodin (Jonathan "The Duke" Mardukas: An accountant who embezzles millions of Serrano's money), in the back of a limo Farino/Serrano tells Grodin/Mardukas . . . "I came here to tell you two things: Number One is that you're going to die tonight. Number Two is I'm going to go home, I'm going to have a nice hot meal, I going to find your wife . . . and I'm going to kill her too . . . ."

Farina/Serrano then promptly gives Grodin/Mardukas one of the hardest back-handed slaps to the face you will see on film.

Gangster Number Two . . . and I'm surprised no one, ESPECIALLY YOU DAMIAN didn't mentioned this guy: I'm talking about Ving Rhames' Marsellus Wallace in Pulp Fiction. To Everyone Who Has Posted Anything Concerning This Topic, I Ask You: How many gangsters can get ass-raped, then come back to shoot his rapist in the balls with a shotgun then promises to call up "a couple of hard-hittin', pipe-wielding niggaz, with a pair of pliers and a blowtorch . . . " to get medieval on his ass??!! 'Nuff Said!

A DISCLAIMER or SHOULD I SAY, DISQUALIFER: To Samuel L. Jackson and John Travolta's roles in the flick because they were NOT GANGSTERS. They were mere HITMEN for Marsellus Wallace. And I really wanted to add Jackson's "Bad Mother F-ker" Jules Winnfield to the list, but I can't and so I won't.
 
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Sean Penn
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My pick would be Ben Kingsley in Sexy Beast. He was great in that! Hard imagine that this is the same guy who played Ghandi, a man of peace. He was bonafide a psychotic and homicidal maniac. A MUST SEE!!!
 
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Denzel Washington
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OH, YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT!! You are totally on the money on that one!! I forgot about Mr. Kingsley! Totally cold-blooded and f--ed-up in the head!! Good call Blackpryzm89!
 
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Johnny Depp
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Ummmm....Jimmy Cagney was not in "Little Ceasar." He was in "Public Enemy" and "White Heat" and "Angels with Dirty Faces" as a gangster (and a lot more I'm sure).

You are thinking of Edward G. Robinson.

Tony Soprano's pretty tough, if we're counting TV.
 
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